Goonhub
04-23-2016, 09:24 PM
So far i noticed we got more bomb variants than those of other weapons... Also the safest and most effective tool/weapon is flamethrower weirdly (it can be used for more than just flaming which is awesome, as it can spread any gas or liquid, so can be used to knockout or heal en masse) while a mere zip gun blows up with a power of a PIPE BOMB... zip guns devastating explosion should be nerfed to affect the shooter only not also taking some station parts with it (in worst case loosing hand/arm and gettin some shrapnel in the body, or even loosing eyesight/hearing when using more powerfull ammo, but merely falling appart if pistol ammo is used, with some minor burn and brute damage to hand).
So zip gun should be by my opinion nerfed in regards to its explosivness...because its cheaper and easyer to make than a pipe bomb and yet blows up the same... Its ammo capacity should also be reduced to one projectile, but it should be upgradable with more parts, for example to accept magazines, revolver barrels, or to even have its own internal magazine(preferably limited to 5 bullets or syringes)! Also at least the one-shooter zip gun should fit in pockets, while more advanced versions should fit in bags for balance sake, thus allowing antags and crew to arm themselves and be more creative when it comes to weapons, not just spam flamers and bombs! Also should be able to shoot syringes, but have no chance of failure then, so medical staff can easily do "ranged" vaccinations for example, security could have sleepy drug filled syringes to use to capture instead of kill, and antags could use those with poisons to quietly deal with a target that might be just ower the table where he cant reach with a sleepy pen for example. Or there should be an upgrade where it makes it completely safe to use but specializes it in one type of ammo!
Gas Cannon- could be made from pipes welded together, and an air tank that can be replaced easily (so it can be refilled) would require nearly anything put in it as projectile (up to 3 projectiles at once), its downside would be having no magazines, and need to reload after each shot, upsides would be easily refillable tank, nearly anything usable as ammo (including filled syringes),ability to shoot up to 3 projectiles at once (imagine glass shards, or glasses the ones that break, which might be also filled with something) but like the flamethrower wouldnt fit in the bag thus balancing it. A fully filled tank should be able to contain enough preassure for 10 shots.
Blundy- basically a safe one shooter made from a pipe,reinforced sheet of metal and igniter, but requires flamable liquid or powder to propel the projectile (welder fuel, strong alcohol or gun powder (sulphur nitrogen(saltpetre) and carbon(charcoal)) requires crafted ammo (made from metal sheet), can shoot syringes, wery loud, takes proper reloading (propelant first then projectile) but its ammo can be customized for example just the ball projectile would act as a normal bullet, but if combined with wires and battery it would also stun, can be coated in chemicals, or be upgraded into barbed bullet which causes a lot of bleeding! Due to its small size fits in pockets and bags.
Coilgun- requires to make coils at workbench, better coils mean better performance (2 small ones for a pistol, 2 big ones for the rifle) some wood for the frame, wires , and small power cell that can be crafted, its a one shooter without the magazine thats made from a sheet of metal, requires crafted ammo (balls like for the blundy). Works similar to antique laser gun in terms of damage and energy consumption, but deals only brute damage like a normal bullet would. Completely safe to use bare hands, pistol would fit in bag (or maybe even pocket) but rifle would not. Tools needed would be soldering iron, wire cutters and screwdriver. This weapon is relatively quiet, pistol is weaker than the rifle (if i had to choose between these 2 to be implemented i would say pistol)
Railgun- requires 2 rods, reinforced metal for frame, wires, and power cell, tools needed would be wire cutters, welder and screwdriver, ammo could be the ball projectiles (in which case it can use a makeshift magazine, and have automatic fire, but without magazine its a one-shooter only) or rods (in this case its a one-shooter only as it only fits between the rails). This dangerous weapon cannot be fired safely without eye protection from the flash it makes, nor the electricity that passes throu it (so welder mask and insulated gloves are mandatory) The projectiles it fires have some leftover charge in them so they do stun and burn a bit, when it has no projectiles loaded, but has energy it can be used like a stun baton. Excesive use will heat up the weapon thus burning the users hands (example 10 shots in one burst, which is a full magazine, or shooting 2 rods one after the other will owerheat the weapon making it too hot to hold). Now why different ammo types? Simple for variety, the ball ammo while weaker, can be also loaded in magazines, and from one sheet of metal lot of them can be made (10) useful to stun and not kill, and for group control; while the rod allows for massive damage, quite some blood (after all whoever is on the receiving end is impaled) and cause its hot also burn (will also like the balls discharge but has far weaker stun effect). This weapon is dangerous to handle without proper equipment, but ammo is easy to find and make, as is the weapon, however its wery flashy and loud, not to mention too big for the backpack.
Stun stick- made from a rod some wires and a power cell, basically a makeshift version of what security has with one difference, unless upgraded with a wooden handle, the user has to have insulated gloves to avoid being stunned!
Pneumatic Pistol- metal pipe, reinforced metal for frame and metal sheet + one rod to make (for mechanism) and one syringe , tools are welder and screwdriver, ammo are ball projectiles in a makeshift magazine, or one syringe inserted into the barrel, basically an owerpowered BB pistol, weak weapon, but completely safe, fits in pocket or bag, relatively silent, requires to be cocked each time after firing, most useful as a safe easy to make concealed gun, especially useful for getting rid of mice and roaches, and dealing with those damn monkeys without being monkey-wrenched! It can fire either balls or syringes not both at same time so has to be unloaded from ball ammo to fire a syringe or vice versa.
Makeshift revolver- pipes, 2 reinforced metal sheets, rod and metal sheet with welder as tool. basically weld pipes then combine some to make the barrel for ammo, make metal frame from reinforced metal, use rod and metal sheet for mechanism, then put one pipe on frame as barel, assemble it all and congrats ya got a decent gun...but where to find ammo? (some hacking will need to be done)
Crossbow- made from wood,reinforced metal, and wires, one rod for mechanism, uses rods as ammo, a decent weapon especially for the lonely botanist who can cover his ammo in chemicals... pros: easy to make ammo is plenty and can be coated with chemicals ; cons: has to be cocked and loaded after each shot, while a single shot seriously injures the target, its otherwise innefective at killing unless poisoned. Making is simple, reinforced metal is used for the frame, wood for the bow cause of elasticity, wires as string, while the rod is the trigger mechanism. Tools needed welder for frame, wire cutters for string made of wires, screwdriver for mechanism to be fastened, and wrench to tighten that.
So zip gun should be by my opinion nerfed in regards to its explosivness...because its cheaper and easyer to make than a pipe bomb and yet blows up the same... Its ammo capacity should also be reduced to one projectile, but it should be upgradable with more parts, for example to accept magazines, revolver barrels, or to even have its own internal magazine(preferably limited to 5 bullets or syringes)! Also at least the one-shooter zip gun should fit in pockets, while more advanced versions should fit in bags for balance sake, thus allowing antags and crew to arm themselves and be more creative when it comes to weapons, not just spam flamers and bombs! Also should be able to shoot syringes, but have no chance of failure then, so medical staff can easily do "ranged" vaccinations for example, security could have sleepy drug filled syringes to use to capture instead of kill, and antags could use those with poisons to quietly deal with a target that might be just ower the table where he cant reach with a sleepy pen for example. Or there should be an upgrade where it makes it completely safe to use but specializes it in one type of ammo!
Gas Cannon- could be made from pipes welded together, and an air tank that can be replaced easily (so it can be refilled) would require nearly anything put in it as projectile (up to 3 projectiles at once), its downside would be having no magazines, and need to reload after each shot, upsides would be easily refillable tank, nearly anything usable as ammo (including filled syringes),ability to shoot up to 3 projectiles at once (imagine glass shards, or glasses the ones that break, which might be also filled with something) but like the flamethrower wouldnt fit in the bag thus balancing it. A fully filled tank should be able to contain enough preassure for 10 shots.
Blundy- basically a safe one shooter made from a pipe,reinforced sheet of metal and igniter, but requires flamable liquid or powder to propel the projectile (welder fuel, strong alcohol or gun powder (sulphur nitrogen(saltpetre) and carbon(charcoal)) requires crafted ammo (made from metal sheet), can shoot syringes, wery loud, takes proper reloading (propelant first then projectile) but its ammo can be customized for example just the ball projectile would act as a normal bullet, but if combined with wires and battery it would also stun, can be coated in chemicals, or be upgraded into barbed bullet which causes a lot of bleeding! Due to its small size fits in pockets and bags.
Coilgun- requires to make coils at workbench, better coils mean better performance (2 small ones for a pistol, 2 big ones for the rifle) some wood for the frame, wires , and small power cell that can be crafted, its a one shooter without the magazine thats made from a sheet of metal, requires crafted ammo (balls like for the blundy). Works similar to antique laser gun in terms of damage and energy consumption, but deals only brute damage like a normal bullet would. Completely safe to use bare hands, pistol would fit in bag (or maybe even pocket) but rifle would not. Tools needed would be soldering iron, wire cutters and screwdriver. This weapon is relatively quiet, pistol is weaker than the rifle (if i had to choose between these 2 to be implemented i would say pistol)
Railgun- requires 2 rods, reinforced metal for frame, wires, and power cell, tools needed would be wire cutters, welder and screwdriver, ammo could be the ball projectiles (in which case it can use a makeshift magazine, and have automatic fire, but without magazine its a one-shooter only) or rods (in this case its a one-shooter only as it only fits between the rails). This dangerous weapon cannot be fired safely without eye protection from the flash it makes, nor the electricity that passes throu it (so welder mask and insulated gloves are mandatory) The projectiles it fires have some leftover charge in them so they do stun and burn a bit, when it has no projectiles loaded, but has energy it can be used like a stun baton. Excesive use will heat up the weapon thus burning the users hands (example 10 shots in one burst, which is a full magazine, or shooting 2 rods one after the other will owerheat the weapon making it too hot to hold). Now why different ammo types? Simple for variety, the ball ammo while weaker, can be also loaded in magazines, and from one sheet of metal lot of them can be made (10) useful to stun and not kill, and for group control; while the rod allows for massive damage, quite some blood (after all whoever is on the receiving end is impaled) and cause its hot also burn (will also like the balls discharge but has far weaker stun effect). This weapon is dangerous to handle without proper equipment, but ammo is easy to find and make, as is the weapon, however its wery flashy and loud, not to mention too big for the backpack.
Stun stick- made from a rod some wires and a power cell, basically a makeshift version of what security has with one difference, unless upgraded with a wooden handle, the user has to have insulated gloves to avoid being stunned!
Pneumatic Pistol- metal pipe, reinforced metal for frame and metal sheet + one rod to make (for mechanism) and one syringe , tools are welder and screwdriver, ammo are ball projectiles in a makeshift magazine, or one syringe inserted into the barrel, basically an owerpowered BB pistol, weak weapon, but completely safe, fits in pocket or bag, relatively silent, requires to be cocked each time after firing, most useful as a safe easy to make concealed gun, especially useful for getting rid of mice and roaches, and dealing with those damn monkeys without being monkey-wrenched! It can fire either balls or syringes not both at same time so has to be unloaded from ball ammo to fire a syringe or vice versa.
Makeshift revolver- pipes, 2 reinforced metal sheets, rod and metal sheet with welder as tool. basically weld pipes then combine some to make the barrel for ammo, make metal frame from reinforced metal, use rod and metal sheet for mechanism, then put one pipe on frame as barel, assemble it all and congrats ya got a decent gun...but where to find ammo? (some hacking will need to be done)
Crossbow- made from wood,reinforced metal, and wires, one rod for mechanism, uses rods as ammo, a decent weapon especially for the lonely botanist who can cover his ammo in chemicals... pros: easy to make ammo is plenty and can be coated with chemicals ; cons: has to be cocked and loaded after each shot, while a single shot seriously injures the target, its otherwise innefective at killing unless poisoned. Making is simple, reinforced metal is used for the frame, wood for the bow cause of elasticity, wires as string, while the rod is the trigger mechanism. Tools needed welder for frame, wire cutters for string made of wires, screwdriver for mechanism to be fastened, and wrench to tighten that.
