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Pirate Market
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(01-08-2022, 01:25 PM)According_tome Wrote: It's a good idea and can add flavor however weapons are a bit unbalanced. Weapons will actually serve to the people with bridge access (because of banking computer) and this can cause more griefing and murder of command personnel also I'm pretty sure QM won't be happy when his entire budget is gone for some random guy's energy gun. To prevent that you can remove those, make prices cheaper to prevent the need of steal. Also regular pipebomb is way cheaper to make than 10k credits so nobody would bother to buy it. If prices are too high people will drain cargo's budget. With a balance this stuff can be great.

I'm not 100% on having this be in cargo in the first place, that was someone else's suggestion. I primarily want this focused on cash and personal accounts than the station budget. The banking computer... is its own bigger problem and I don't want to roll it into the black market merchant expansion. Want to keep the patch focused on adding content rather than changing anything.

Numbers are going to be the last thing I get round to finalise, pipe bombs have already been adjusted in my code draft to take into account their material and time requirement. I agree with you that this stuff has to be attractive to players otherwise why bother adding anything, but a lot of people in the thread has been wanting more and more conservative pricing with higher costs for anything that can be weaponised. I've been altering the prices based on feedback in the thread but it's been causing more problems than it's solving and I'm getting massively conflicting advice on whether or not this stuff is too readily avaliable or too expensive, so I'm just going to use the other merchants already in the code as a guideline.

(01-08-2022, 11:32 AM)Zonespace Wrote: https://imgur.com/a/SIaEWxa
https://imgur.com/a/VXZl9gu

I'm not going to be making fundamental changes based on allegedly hard rules partly formulated in future screenshotted sentences between two people I don't know in a discord channel I've never seen. Hope you feel that's reasonable. Adventure zoners turning their loot into cash is an important gameplay loop and a key feature, I need more pushback than that before I cut it entirely.

(01-08-2022, 05:34 PM)Ikea Wrote: Any mechanical change has player behavior inherently inside of its scope because players are the one who will be the ones using and affected by game mechanics. Not to mention mechanical differences heavily influence how players behave.

The player behaviour issues are theoretical. No one has used or abused these mechanics because they're not even fully written yet. The arguments about balance and player behaviour issues in this thread are not based in reality, and I mean that in the most literal sense. These are imagined problems and they are not helpful.


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Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-19-2021, 06:01 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Drewmajor11 - 12-19-2021, 06:34 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 12-19-2021, 06:38 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-19-2021, 07:10 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DimWhat - 12-19-2021, 07:27 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Nidabutt - 12-20-2021, 01:41 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Danger Noodle - 12-20-2021, 02:24 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 12-20-2021, 05:20 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by cyberTripping - 12-20-2021, 05:50 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-20-2021, 11:14 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Nidabutt - 12-20-2021, 03:49 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-21-2021, 12:34 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Drewmajor11 - 12-20-2021, 06:17 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Danger Noodle - 12-21-2021, 12:57 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-21-2021, 02:29 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by TDHooligan - 12-23-2021, 06:23 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 05:46 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 07:43 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by mralexs - 12-29-2021, 08:21 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 12-29-2021, 08:40 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 09:24 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 12-29-2021, 09:41 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 09:43 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 12-29-2021, 09:46 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 09:58 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 12-29-2021, 08:35 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 08:43 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 12-29-2021, 08:49 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by mralexs - 12-29-2021, 10:23 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 12-29-2021, 11:21 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 11:54 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 12-30-2021, 12:40 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-30-2021, 02:46 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 12-30-2021, 05:51 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-30-2021, 06:52 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Mouse - 12-30-2021, 07:45 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-30-2021, 02:32 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by cyberTripping - 12-30-2021, 03:48 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-30-2021, 05:09 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 12-30-2021, 11:24 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by saccharineChampion - 12-30-2021, 03:44 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-31-2021, 09:27 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-31-2021, 10:36 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-01-2022, 01:45 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-01-2022, 02:10 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-01-2022, 04:42 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-01-2022, 11:25 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 04:35 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-02-2022, 09:47 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-02-2022, 10:18 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 04:50 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-02-2022, 06:20 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 07:29 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-02-2022, 08:08 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 08:31 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DimWhat - 01-02-2022, 08:38 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 08:45 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 01-02-2022, 08:46 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 08:55 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DimWhat - 01-02-2022, 08:55 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 09:00 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 01-03-2022, 12:53 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-03-2022, 06:53 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-03-2022, 10:08 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Frank_Stein - 01-03-2022, 03:09 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-03-2022, 07:45 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-03-2022, 08:45 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-03-2022, 09:27 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-03-2022, 11:09 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-07-2022, 06:25 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 01-07-2022, 12:13 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-07-2022, 11:46 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-08-2022, 12:32 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Mrprogamer96 - 01-08-2022, 01:34 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-08-2022, 02:30 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-08-2022, 09:04 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-08-2022, 05:34 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-08-2022, 10:55 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-08-2022, 05:34 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 01-08-2022, 11:08 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-08-2022, 11:32 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by According_tome - 01-08-2022, 01:25 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-09-2022, 01:31 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by mralexs - 01-09-2022, 05:35 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-09-2022, 07:55 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-09-2022, 08:37 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-09-2022, 09:50 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-10-2022, 04:24 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-09-2022, 11:18 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 01-10-2022, 06:47 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Mouse - 01-10-2022, 07:05 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-10-2022, 03:12 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Sord213 - 01-10-2022, 04:08 PM

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