So, I'm not sure how to really report this- terrible round.

[SRQ]

I never asked for anyone to be banned, and never even named the captain though?

[Ali0en]

Except the title "I'm not sure how to report this"

"Report"

As far as I can tell you just came here to stir up shit and cause drama. The sticky clearly states if you have a problem, adminhelp it. Not post it on the forum under a title that's basically "WOW LOOK AT WHAT THIS GUY DID IT'S AGAINST THE RULES".

Adminhelp and let it be.

[69andahalf]

I never asked for anyone to be banned, and never even named the captain though?

You should have known that this post would start "drama", the primary reason why player complaints are not allowed. Yes you didn't ask for any punishment for the player, but you are still complaining about the conduct of a player that you didn't agree with. If it's not about the conduct of the player, then why did you not post a complaint about how the admins handled the situation?

[SRQ]

I never asked for anyone to be banned, and never even named the captain though?

You should have known that this post would start "drama", the primary reason why player complaints are not allowed. Yes you didn't ask for any punishment for the player, but you are still complaining about the conduct of a player that you didn't agree with. If it's not about the conduct of the player, then why did you not post a complaint about how the admins handled the situation?

Because I'm not complaining about how the admins handled the situation, I'm discussing the situation itself with others?
Well, I was until you barged in here.

[Ali0en]

So then you are complaining about what the traitor was doing? That sounds like a player complaint.

[Ed Venture]

I really don't see the point to this thread. The traitor in question did nothing wrong and it really sounds like you are just complaining about the whole ordeal.

[cgrn10]

I really don't see the point to this thread. The traitor in question did nothing wrong and it really sounds like you are just complaining about the whole ordeal.

You did less whining during my Hitler-ness and that was a thousand times worse.

[Ed Venture]

Also I want to say that you are not in the wrong for killing yourself for not wanting to take part in this traitor's gimmick. Traitors don't give a shit about what you are doing so you don't have to care about what they are trying to do. I still don't think you should have made a thread complaining about it that was pretty dumb in my opinion.

[Frank_Stein]

Man, I don't want to put words in SRQ's mouth, but the way I see it is they felt weird about something that happened in round and wanted to talk about it within the community it occurred in to try and sort out whether their discomfort was something to be legitimately worried about.

Like, yeah I'm aware this is just a silly spaceman game and these forums shouldn't really have a player complaint section or something, but damn. If a person is willing to make the effort of posting and risk coming across as a stick in the mud to tell you how something someone else did in the community made them feel off, have the courtesy to hear them out and not be so dismissive. To do otherwise is just going to discourage people from participating in said community.

[Spy_Guy]

This thread is going nowhere good at this point.

EDIT: There's still hope.

[Ali0en]

have the courtesy to hear them out and not be so dismissive. To do otherwise is just going to discourage people from participating in said community.

Except there is no forum section to discuss how other people have acted and you're not supposed to outside of mentor/HoS apps. Why? Drama. Just look at this thread. It's stupid. This thread wasn't about discussing it, it was about REPORTING it. Read the title. If it had a different OP and title, one that wasn't made to basically be an ooc ahelp and one not about a singular player, there wouldn't be this crap. If you have an issue with someone you can message them on byond or try IRC.

I'm not trying to be an asshole but this thread is just pure waste and people trying to justify its creation.

[Grayshift]

Bringing up discussion of this sort of thing should never be discouraged. It does sound like this time is was mostly innocuous but I can definitely respect the player's right to opt out of that sort of thing.

But we really, really don't want people afraid to ask 'is this okay' on questionable stuff. That leads to actual awfulness being allowed to continue.

[Lost Generation SA]

Could I point out first of all that it shows in the screenshot that SQR did adminhelp this issue, had a reply, and replied to that? This isn't being done instead of adminhelping, and it isn't naming or singling out the traitor in question.

A slavery gimmick has the potential to become extremely awful very quickly. Personally I would wait to see if the traitor had something interesting planned and adminhelp when things got creepy, but it's understandable for someone to be unwilling to even see where things went, simply because of where they could go.

What this thread is essentially asking is if slavery comes under the 'do not do this' list of rules, and, if it doesn't, whether other players think that it should be added. It's clear from the majority of replies that people are against that, but I don't see any harm in asking. When something is in a grey area like this, with some people being ok with it and some not, you absolutely should start a discussion about whether it's allowed on the server.
I could have misunderstood something, but I was told in the early days the goonservers didn't have anti-bigotry rules. I'm sure there was at least some discussion before those were added, and I guarantee there were people opposed to them. The issue in this thread is obviously not on the same scale, but it should be talked about.

Grayshift beat me to saying it, but if people shout SQR down for this, other people will be reluctant to draw attention to similar issues, possibly even worse ones.

[Klayboxx]

SQR is a huge baby who shouldn't play this game because he gets upset at something this lame. People are not going to be afraid to report actual rule breaking things, like calling people slurs and making it clear they're trying to recreate black slavery. There is a clear and large difference. This thread should have never existed and was clearly originally intended as a player report, despite what SQR is saying now. He is obviously backpedaling now that he realizes that player complaints are ~against the rules~

[BaneOfGiygas]

He is obviously backpedaling now that he realizes that player complaints are ~against the rules~

Have you ever thought to consider that he might be backpedaling because he's got a bunch of people on his case, which compounds the awkwardness of an already uncomfortable situation?

As multiple people have said, this isn't a player complaint so much as it is questioning the validity of a traitor gimmick, taking specific effort to NOT directly call out anyone involved. He's not whining, he just seems concerned about something that made him really uncomfortable and might have made or might make other people uncomfortable. If I saw something that deeply perturbed me and no one, not even the administration, seems to give a damn at the moment, I'd get pretty worried about the integrity of the server. And yet here we are calling him a huge baby who should just dea, with it and move on? What the hell is that going to accomplish aside from turning off a potential player?

Sure, if people turned to the forums with every possible dodgy thing that happens in a round, they would cram up the forums. I get that. But I get that because I've been here for a while, and SRQ here strikes me as a relatively new player. He isn't quite as familiar with Goonstation's attitude, and there's a clear disparity between a situation that he sees as really creepy and the rules that clearly prohibit anything creepy, so he no doubt wants to see if his opinion is valid. And you know what? Good on him for it! It takes some fortitude to dive into something as notoriously off-the-wall as the Goonstation community with something like this, and even if you disagree with the guy, at least have the courtesy to hear him out and consider his stance instead of brushing him off as some random twit and moving on. That does nothing but bad things to our public image, which is not something anyone wants.