Blood System Feedback

[Sam Guivene]

Last time I tested, suiciding with a knife and/or scalpel doesn't make the impressive blood fountain it used to, can this be fixed please?

[Archenteron]

Last time I tested, suiciding with a knife and/or scalpel doesn't make the impressive blood fountain it used to, can this be fixed please?

Did you test a day or more ago? I saw someone suicide with a knife in the wee hours of this morning and it did a fair blood spray.

I mean, it could always be more. High-pressure movie-style arterial spray is the hot new old thing, right?

[Sam Guivene]

Last time I tested, suiciding with a knife and/or scalpel doesn't make the impressive blood fountain it used to, can this be fixed please?

Did you test a day or more ago? I saw someone suicide with a knife in the wee hours of this morning and it did a fair blood spray.

I mean, it could always be more. High-pressure movie-style arterial spray is the hot new old thing, right?

Just checked, Haine apparently fixed the bug, apparently some issue with the lazy shortcut code he made breaking or something, its apperently fixed now.

[Haine]

Just checked, Haine apparently fixed the bug, apparently some issue with the lazy shortcut code he made breaking or something, its apperently fixed now.

you know what's a lazy shortcut

YOUR FACE

NERD

(it's stupid to have the same code copy/pasted over and over through a dozen things when you can just write a proc to do it and call the proc, since then if something's wrong with the code you only have to fix it in one place)

[DyssalC]

You should be able to rip bedsheets up into rags that function like bandages. Use a knife/glass-shard/scalpel/circular-saw/chainsaw/(sharp object I left out) on a bedsheet, turns into 3 rags.
And maybe rags eventually get other uses.

[OMJ]

Bleeding is a fantastic system- also, scalpels and saws are fine. It's best to knock someone down and then get to stabbing, in which the bleed damage they take can lead to them not waking up

[Haine]

With Tobba's help, I fussed with the numbers more today. Things should do a lot less instant damage to the amount of blood you have now and bloodloss shouldn't be as much of a PITA until it gets decently low. Everything that does cutting or stabbing damage via the system should have a sound effect now. You'll probably also notice the new HUD element that pops up when you're bleeding. Hopefully all of this'll help make it a more noticeable thing rather than a ~mystery system that kills you randomly~

[Zafhset]

Given how cheap it is to produce a suture (1 metal last I checked) and how sutures actually work, I feel that it should be a one-use kind of item.

As it stands bandages are like the less effective cousin of sutures, and there's not much reason to rely on it.

[DyssalC]

Given how cheap it is to produce a suture (1 metal last I checked) and how sutures actually work, I feel that it should be a one-use kind of item.

As it stands bandages are like the less effective cousin of sutures, and there's not much reason to rely on it.

Or perhaps make sutures unmanufacturable, giving only a set amount at round start.

[UrsulaMejor]

make sutures close incisions and bleeding stumps so that they're a proper end to surgery. make them ineffective at stopping bleeding is the target is not unconscious or lying on an operating table.

bandages will be for on the go and emergency care, sutures will be for closing up the huge gashes surgery leaves.

[babayetu83]

i think itd be nice if doctors or cyborgs had access to larger capacity syringes in order to refill bloodbags

[Frank_Stein]

i think itd be nice if doctors or cyborgs had access to larger capacity syringes in order to refill bloodbags

Some kind of donation machine that pumped out blood into bags in safe levels would be good. Emag it and completely drain people.

[DyssalC]

i think itd be nice if doctors or cyborgs had access to larger capacity syringes in order to refill bloodbags

Ya, it's a bitch trying to refill those things.

How about something made specifically for transferring blood to it? Like a blood pump? Attach to container A then container B, and blood flows from A to B until B is full or A is empty. Possible containers for transfer could be people/monkeys, beakers, and blood bags.

[Frank_Stein]

i think itd be nice if doctors or cyborgs had access to larger capacity syringes in order to refill bloodbags

Ya, it's a bitch trying to refill those things.

How about something made specifically for transferring blood to it? Like a blood pump? Attach to container A then container B, and blood flows from A to B until B is full or A is empty. Possible containers for transfer could be people/monkeys, beakers, and blood bags.

Click drag from the container to the pump to set input, from the pump to the container for output.

[Haine]

Before I get into replies, I made a post here in a blood system-related thread about vampires that I'd love input on.

I've got sprites for a blood processor, I just need to code the thing. The blood processor will, with current plans, accept beakers of blood and plasma, remove all non-blood reagents from supplied blood, and spit out bags of Generic Universally Donatable Blood via plasma space magic. It'll take a little time, but it sorta bypasses the current issue of blood types and large donations.

Another option for donations that I'm considering is being able to attach an empty syringe to a bloodbag and attach that to someone, filling the bag. I'd have to drop the total volume of the bags significantly, but- aaaaAA WAIT WHY DO THEY HOLD SO MUCH ANYWAY, FUCK (they currently hold 500u which is uhh, the same amount as a person. the bloodbags hold as much blood as a person does. an entire person's worth of blood in each bag. what was I thinking aaaa I'll fix this asap)
Anyway, for that, blood type and other reagents would have to come into play. Probably I'll make the bags useable in-hand to switch between donation and transfusion modes.

As for bandages and sutures, you guys are right that there's not much reason to use bandages if you have access to sutures at the moment. I always wanted sutures to be the preferred option, but if they're too easy to find and making bandages useless, I'll fuss with numbers a bit. I like bandages too much to make them totally useless!!