Turbine automation poll

[Mikeistaken]

What form of turbine automation does everyone use? I very much like using the Multiplicative setup, however I see people all the time using an addition based setup and i don't know why. also commenting the reason why would also be good because it will be collective information on why you think one is better then the other.

Edit: Since there is some confusion about what each form looks like, I will include them in this post.

1. Multiplicative:
   • This setup is made using 2 splitter components and 2 arithmetic components.
     
   • Splitter A is set to (rpm) and splitter B is set to (stator).
     
   • Splitter A goes into arithmetic A in spot A and arithmetic A is setup so A is divided
     
   • by B (600).
     
   • The result is sent to arithmetic B.
     
   • Splitter B is connected to arithmetic B, and the arithmetic component will multiply
     
   • the results of arithmetic A and splitter B, then send it back to the turbine
     
2. Addition-based:
   • This setup is made with 1 splitter, 2 arithmetic and 1 counter.
     
   • The splitter is set to (rpm) and connected to arithmetic a under A
     
   • Arithmetic A is set to subtract B(600) from A then sent to arithmetic B
     
   • Arithmetic B is set to multiply A and B together, where one of them is from arithmetic A and another is an arbitrary number used to configure the rate of change, 500 is a common variable.
     
   • Once that's done it's sent to the counter component under "Change by" then sent back to the turbine.
     

[GARGATHUGANOKSREVENG]

I only figured out how to automate it a few months ago, I have no idea how the setup I use actually works I just memorized how to set it up, and it broke after they updated the nuclear engine.

But I'm pretty sure it was multiplicative

[Mikeistaken]

I updated to tell how each one is made for clarity

[A_Real_Cat1]

Personally i use the addition-based model because that's the one i was taught in a shift, mechcomp for the most part isn't something i want to spend my time figuring out so i just follow the steps i was taught and that's about it. Haven't tried the other one but based on the instructions in the post the addition-based one seems faster/simpler to set up.

[Angel]

I use the addition-based model because it's pretty close to some IRL automation I know using proportional controllers.

[RaccoonPope]

As you know from our IC interactions I use the addition-based variant as that was the way I was taught and it hasn’t failed me yet

[AnomalousPotato]

iirc, the multiplicative variant is faster and more accurate, but it runs into an issue with high stator load values. The turbine will begin outputting the stator load in scientific notation, such as 1.24e+6, since it is in joules, not kilojoules. Mechcomp components don’t account for this however, and will simply truncate everything starting with the e, so 1.24e+6 becomes 1.24, rather than 1,240,000. As far as I know, this was never fixed, so instead of relying on the mechcomp output of the turbine, the additive variant uses the counter, which will stay in sync as long as the counter is the only thing that adjusts the stator load. If you’re just doing a basic setup though, multiplicative is fine. I explain all this here: https://wiki.ss13.co/User:AnomalousPotat...Automation

[Romayne]

Pretty sure the original automation method I initially created [Not like I can really claim credit, pretty sure it's a basic concept in some fields or similar and I've seen others make the same on their own.] additive method (4 components), I tried to make a setup that directly calculated the delta energy from pipes but that was too slow without forecasting future energy changes due to processing delays.

Here's what that looked like at the time:

[GARGATHUGANOKSREVENG]

Pretty sure the original automation method I initially created [Not like I can really claim credit, pretty sure it's a basic concept in some fields or similar and I've seen others make the same on their own.] additive method (4 components), I tried to make a setup that directly calculated the delta energy from pipes but that was too slow without forecasting future energy changes due to processing delays.

Here's what that looked like at the time:

jesus and I thought the setup someone taught me was oversized