Goonhub
06-04-2021, 07:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-04-2021, 07:34 PM by zjdtmkhzt. Edited 1 time in total.)
Yes, this seems pretty ridiculous.
Permeability Coefficients:
Gas mask: 0.01
Lab coat: 0.25
Jumpsuit: 0.5
White shoes: 0.05
An issue is that the current calculation for this divides the values by 3, but you actually have 4 items that protect you.
So you end up with (4-(0.01+0.25+0.5+0.05))/3 = ~106% protection from touch effects in smoke.
If it were 4, you would instead end up with (4-(0.01+0.25+0.5+0.05))/4 = ~80% protection from touch effects in smoke.
Of course, that system instantly falls apart when you add something as simple as gloves or a hat with some permeability coefficient to your spaceperson.
The sensible thing then would be to do something like making a few different zones, like head, hands, torso, feet, with different slot clothing being able to protect different areas, so no matter how much your hat, gas mask, and goggles protect you, you'll still receive touch effects via your hands, torso, and legs if you are not wearing other protective gear.
Something like an outer suit could protect all areas in that case, there could be a field with a bitmask type thing for which clothing piece can protect which areas in addition to the permeability coefficient, in that way we could realistically model what percentage of a spaceperson should be exposed to touch effects.
Of course, someone would have to actually code that and then classify the items appropriately, and they might just end up with a system as understandable to the average player as the old pathology infection protection.^^
Anyway, my closing statement is: this is dumb and default scientist gear should not protect you from sarin smoke. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
I think the part that is absurd is that apparently none of the sarin is touching your skin, even though in this scenario you are not wearing anything on your head apart from the mask (which covers only the front part of your face), your neck is completely exposed, your hands are exposed, your jumpsuit is just a jumpsuit, so your legs and torso are probably not perfectly protected from smoke, etc...
All in all, it just makes no sense. (And I think it is questionable from a gameplay standpoint as well, because why do we even have the biosuits for the scientists then?)
Permeability Coefficients:
Gas mask: 0.01
Lab coat: 0.25
Jumpsuit: 0.5
White shoes: 0.05
An issue is that the current calculation for this divides the values by 3, but you actually have 4 items that protect you.
So you end up with (4-(0.01+0.25+0.5+0.05))/3 = ~106% protection from touch effects in smoke.
If it were 4, you would instead end up with (4-(0.01+0.25+0.5+0.05))/4 = ~80% protection from touch effects in smoke.
Of course, that system instantly falls apart when you add something as simple as gloves or a hat with some permeability coefficient to your spaceperson.
The sensible thing then would be to do something like making a few different zones, like head, hands, torso, feet, with different slot clothing being able to protect different areas, so no matter how much your hat, gas mask, and goggles protect you, you'll still receive touch effects via your hands, torso, and legs if you are not wearing other protective gear.
Something like an outer suit could protect all areas in that case, there could be a field with a bitmask type thing for which clothing piece can protect which areas in addition to the permeability coefficient, in that way we could realistically model what percentage of a spaceperson should be exposed to touch effects.
Of course, someone would have to actually code that and then classify the items appropriately, and they might just end up with a system as understandable to the average player as the old pathology infection protection.^^
Anyway, my closing statement is: this is dumb and default scientist gear should not protect you from sarin smoke. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
(06-04-2021, 03:26 PM)Azrun Wrote: What part is absurd? That is a gas mask's job regarding the smoke.
Scientist: gas mask, white shoes, labcoat, and the jumpsuit give full immunity to skin penetration
Roboticist's: latex gloves, black shoes, labcoat, and jumpsuit give >90% immunity to skin penetration
You need 3 or more pieces of equipment to give immunity to skin penetrating chemicals. Do you think there should be more required or that they should be less effective?
I think the part that is absurd is that apparently none of the sarin is touching your skin, even though in this scenario you are not wearing anything on your head apart from the mask (which covers only the front part of your face), your neck is completely exposed, your hands are exposed, your jumpsuit is just a jumpsuit, so your legs and torso are probably not perfectly protected from smoke, etc...
All in all, it just makes no sense. (And I think it is questionable from a gameplay standpoint as well, because why do we even have the biosuits for the scientists then?)