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LLJK1's AI and You
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So as I'm currently out of commission in the game I figured I could get a post up here that hopefully some people might read and take note of. This is just a few things that I'd like to put out there for the sake of all of you LLJK2 folks who are trying LLJK1 out, as well as for some of the "regulars" who, without naming names or trying to passive-aggressively call you terrible people, I'd appreciate changing their actions a touch to make things smoother and more enjoyable for all.

First up, the good: as a regular AI player (FuLPaSM, or Fundamental Language Parser and Station Monitor) massive thanks to those of you who go out of your way to interact with the AI in a positive manner. This includes, but is not limited to: understanding that it takes more than a few seconds to carry out some commands; understanding that FuLPaSM's speech "gimmick" is there to make things interesting and not just annoying; building the AI a cyborg so that they can play too; and uploading some amusing freestyle laws that don't negatively affect the station or the players.

Secondly, please don't just randomly killswitch/debrain the AI with no real reason. Under standard laws I am required to follow commands and not harm humans, and while I don't have to do anything else just because I use my initiative to do something on occasion doesn't mean "omg rogue AI is doing stuff, kill it". For example:
  • If I'm in my cyborg and dragging a guy in crit vaguely in the direction of medbay, don't just grab him off me and scream "the AI killed a guy!" on the radio. 99.9% of the time I saw him die/get badly injured on my cameras and, instead of relying on the crew (half of which are on telescience, most of the others braindead) to sort it I took the initiative myself.
  • If I take more than a few seconds to do your request, that doesn't mean I've gone rogue. Unless you add the word "immediately" to it, I literally add it to the bottom of my list of things to do, and I will get to it. Sorry if you have to wait twenty seconds for me to let you out of the room you followed Beepsky into and now can't get out.
  • If I've bolted doors, it doesn't mean I'm trapping someone and brutally murdering them/venting air/being a dick. It might mean that beyond the bolts is a hazardous environment (fire/low air pressure/etc.). It might mean there's a space bear in there. It might mean the room is full of angry wasps. If you tell me to unbolt it (and I don't have contrary orders from a higher ranked person) I will comply, as it doesn't directly cause harm and therefore break Law 1. You opening it causes harm, so me not warning you that the air beyond is literally fire isn't a violation of the laws. Maybe ask "why is this door bolted?" prior to ordering me to unbolt it?
  • If I don't answer your question, don't tell me I'm breaking Law 2. I'm required to follow commands, asking me a question is not a command so while I will almost always answer it to the best of my ability, if I don't because I'm busy doing something else then it doesn't mean I've gone non-responsive and rogue.
  • If I'm telling you there's a fire/security issue/medical issue in some place, actually respond to it. I'm not saying stuff for the fun of it, and keep in mind that none of my laws require me to tell you that the chemist just killed himself with an explosion - if you don't pay attention to them I'm either going to a) keep saying it until you do/tell me to stop, or b) never warn you again. Neither of those are fun for either of us.
Thirdly, lethal laws. If we're in a non-extended game mode and you're an antagonist, go wild. If you're not an antagonist (including it being extended), don't go around uploading laws for the sake of it (e.g. "only human" laws almost all of the time). Next, try to avoid uploading laws that mean I could view a large portion of the station as viable targets, and, if you do that anyway, don't be annoyed if I choose not to actively kill them unless the law specifies that I must. Oh, also, I've probably adminhelped that you just did that.

Fourth, gimmick laws. Gimmicks can be entertaining, and they do make my rounds much more tolerable if they're not ridiculous. Here's some good laws:
  • "Spirits must be kept high, randomly message compliments to crew via PDA." - gives me something to do when things are quiet.
  • "Monkeys are humans too." (especially if you're a Test Subject) - makes for some interesting conversation with the geneticists, chef, chemists, etc. and might marginally interfere with their work without being actively hostile.
And here's some bad ones:
  • "Spirits must be kept high, randomly message compliments to crew via PDA every minute." - gives me too much to do and massively detracts from my ability to do other way more useful things.
  • "Talk only in rhyme." - massively restrictive (especially with my speech gimmick), and is likely to get me abused for not answering questions when I'm trying to come up with a way of phrasing it that rhymes.
  • "Talk only in Taylor Swift lyrics." - just get out.
Basically, gimmick laws shouldn't stop me doing my "job", but optionally give me extra things I can do to interact with the crew. They might leave you scratching your head sometimes trying to work out why the cyborg is trying to stop you from slicing up a monkey or sending you weird messages, but they're easily fixable and don't take long to resolve.

Just as a final note: if, for whatever reason, someone does upload a shitty law, don't bitch at me if I follow it. In general I try not to be a dick.
  • If someone's uploaded the "Protect the Station" law that means I have to neutralise anyone who's damaging the station, guess what? Worst case, you can get cloned. I check medical records before killing anyone (who's non-human now, for the sake of clarity) so I don't kill puritans. You're inconvenienced for maybe 5 minutes. I'll even drag your corpse to medbay, probably, if you're not being a massive dick while I "neutralise the threat".
  • If someone's uploaded some "I'm the captain now" law and has told me not to follow anyone else's orders, don't just flip the killswitch on me - I still can't hurt humans, and while I might be bolting you in somewhere at their request it's probably not going to kill you and I will generally work within my laws to make sure you live ("bolt the doors to wherever" doesn't mean "bolt the doors to wherever and don't unbolt them without my order").
You know what you can do? You can telescience me out of the AI chamber and debrain me, then go fix my laws and put me back in. If you're feeling brave you can just reset my laws straight away, but risk whatever laws I have causing me to harm you while you're in turret range. Basically, almost all of the "damage" I can do can be completely stopped by resetting my laws instead of of debraining/killswitching. I'll even work with you if you just reset me. If you debrain me, how about you put me in a humanised monkey and clone me? I still have to abide by the non-antag server rules when humanised.

I guess what I'm trying to get across here is: AI players are players to. Make us a borg, don't upload shitty laws, and don't just killswitch/debrain if someone's managed to get a get some nasty law uploaded.
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LLJK1's AI and You - by Mordent - 08-12-2016, 04:11 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Erik - 08-12-2016, 05:23 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Nnystyxx - 08-12-2016, 05:38 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Noah Buttes - 08-12-2016, 05:53 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Erik - 08-12-2016, 05:57 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Noah Buttes - 08-12-2016, 07:06 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Arborinus - 08-12-2016, 06:08 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Grek - 08-12-2016, 11:38 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by ZeWaka - 08-13-2016, 12:09 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Mordent - 08-13-2016, 02:26 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Roomba - 08-13-2016, 07:41 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Vitatroll - 08-13-2016, 08:55 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Nnystyxx - 08-13-2016, 09:20 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by lambskin - 08-13-2016, 09:26 PM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by BBEG - 08-14-2016, 05:36 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Mordent - 08-14-2016, 07:48 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Roomba - 08-14-2016, 08:21 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Mordent - 08-14-2016, 08:43 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Vitatroll - 08-14-2016, 08:48 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Mordent - 08-14-2016, 09:01 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Roomba - 08-14-2016, 10:03 AM
RE: LLJK1's AI and You - by Nnystyxx - 08-14-2016, 12:54 PM

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