Goonhub
05-05-2015, 10:47 AM
Yeah I agree with frank.
But I also agree with urs in that food and drink should have an effect on your average round.
I don't think there needs to be several different requirements as suggested in the OP. I think the OP is a little too complex. I think there should only be 3. Hunger, nutrient and thirst.
Hunger and nutrients go hand in hand. For example a pack of crisps may satisfy hunger, but has low nutrient value. While a salad will satisfy nutrient value but will not hunger. Sugar is already present in various junk food so it also goes hand in hand with nutrient value, i.e: Something that has low nutrient value is likely full of sugar. To break it down, and using idea's from urs here's what it could do:
For Nutrient combine the effects of both Mineral and Vitamins. A healthy meal will give a passive (albeit very passive) health regen as suggested. It will increase the max stamina to a noticeable effect and max health to a minor effect, depending on the level of nutrients. Eating healthy food will reduce toxins in the body similar to charcoal but to a minor effect. Both sugar and alcohol are considered poisons in this case. Nutrients is NOT required like hunger, you will not have any negative effects from not eating nutrients. But if you have a healthy and hearty meal you get the pro's of having a full stomach + the pros of nutrients, so why the hell would you NOT eat it? (amanitin perhaps).
Leave Sugar as it is, a chemical. Sugar as of now acts as a mild stimulant, causes people to convulse and people can overdose on it, where insulin is required. It's also present in a lot of unhealthy foods. It's fine as it is. I do however believe space diabetes should be a thing.
Personally Protein should be similar to Nutrients in that it's not a requirement, but instead let Protein be a chemical. This chemical is present in various food such as eggs, meats, diary, etc, in various quantities. It's also present in DISCOUNT DAN PROTEIN PROGAINZ ™ which has a significant amount of protein but also a shit-ton of sugar.
Eating protein on its own has no effect whatsoever. However if you workout it will increase the protein decay but will also increase your strength.
This has 3 tiers of strength. Tier zero is your average person. Tier 1 is fit, greater stamina regen and you run slightly faster. Tier 2 is buff. You're heavy handed, you have greater chance to have an aggressive grab. Tier 3 is a permanent hulk mutation. For times, it would take roughly 25 minutes of constant working out and taking protein to get you to this level. OHHH YEAHH.
And lastly, Thirst. I think any form of liquid drank will help with thrist, unlike in the sims mode where some drinks potentially dehydrate you.
I like the ideas of urs and have nothing to add other than working out will increase the depletion rate of thirst. I also think if there are any liquids in the system you will need to piss. And pissing on the ground will lead to you getting arrested by beepsky.
But I also agree with urs in that food and drink should have an effect on your average round.
I don't think there needs to be several different requirements as suggested in the OP. I think the OP is a little too complex. I think there should only be 3. Hunger, nutrient and thirst.
Hunger and nutrients go hand in hand. For example a pack of crisps may satisfy hunger, but has low nutrient value. While a salad will satisfy nutrient value but will not hunger. Sugar is already present in various junk food so it also goes hand in hand with nutrient value, i.e: Something that has low nutrient value is likely full of sugar. To break it down, and using idea's from urs here's what it could do:
Quote:Calories, from all foodThis is essentially Hunger. Replace Calorie with Hunger and this is good idea. It rewards the player for eating and has incentive for doing so. 15 minutes the grumbling will begin, and at 25 minutes the grumbling is regular and becomes audible. At 0 hunger the severe pain will cause the person to clutch their stomach, dropping items and the improper stamina regen. Now I can imagine people will grump about this, but this is literally cured by going to a vending machine and it happens after 30 minutes or so. It's not rocket science.
- The basic nutrient. Calories start at 1000 at the beginning of the shift and slowly go down.
- Stamina regen drains calories very slowly -- should be unnoticeable if not constantly fighting
- At 500, your stomach will grumble. This happens after 20 minutes of non-strenuous work.
- When your stomach is grumbling, you will crave food and occasionally clutch your stomach
- At 0, your stomach will be in severe pain and unable to regenerate stamina normally
- At 1500 you are satiated. Food starts having less effect and you eat slower.
- When satiated, stamina regen is slightly faster.
- At 2000, you are full. Food no longer has nutritional effect other than Calories.
- At 3000, you become fat. Stamina regen is slowed, body temp increases, and you are at higher risk of heart disease.
For Nutrient combine the effects of both Mineral and Vitamins. A healthy meal will give a passive (albeit very passive) health regen as suggested. It will increase the max stamina to a noticeable effect and max health to a minor effect, depending on the level of nutrients. Eating healthy food will reduce toxins in the body similar to charcoal but to a minor effect. Both sugar and alcohol are considered poisons in this case. Nutrients is NOT required like hunger, you will not have any negative effects from not eating nutrients. But if you have a healthy and hearty meal you get the pro's of having a full stomach + the pros of nutrients, so why the hell would you NOT eat it? (amanitin perhaps).
Leave Sugar as it is, a chemical. Sugar as of now acts as a mild stimulant, causes people to convulse and people can overdose on it, where insulin is required. It's also present in a lot of unhealthy foods. It's fine as it is. I do however believe space diabetes should be a thing.
Personally Protein should be similar to Nutrients in that it's not a requirement, but instead let Protein be a chemical. This chemical is present in various food such as eggs, meats, diary, etc, in various quantities. It's also present in DISCOUNT DAN PROTEIN PROGAINZ ™ which has a significant amount of protein but also a shit-ton of sugar.
Eating protein on its own has no effect whatsoever. However if you workout it will increase the protein decay but will also increase your strength.
This has 3 tiers of strength. Tier zero is your average person. Tier 1 is fit, greater stamina regen and you run slightly faster. Tier 2 is buff. You're heavy handed, you have greater chance to have an aggressive grab. Tier 3 is a permanent hulk mutation. For times, it would take roughly 25 minutes of constant working out and taking protein to get you to this level. OHHH YEAHH.
And lastly, Thirst. I think any form of liquid drank will help with thrist, unlike in the sims mode where some drinks potentially dehydrate you.
I like the ideas of urs and have nothing to add other than working out will increase the depletion rate of thirst. I also think if there are any liquids in the system you will need to piss. And pissing on the ground will lead to you getting arrested by beepsky.