Goonhub
11-17-2012, 06:38 AM
I don't frequent the IRC channel so I don't know if you settled this, you hadn't the last time I asked though.
When I got a "You're free" earlier this week, it came to my attention that the two admins watching the round weren't in agreement on what's cool and not cool in that scenario. I got PMs from both, and we ended wiping the law to end the argument. I have just enough street smarts to not argue with an admin, but it got pretty awkward when the other said the exact opposite.
It's been my understanding that we've always let the AI get away with murder if someone is dumb enough to give him leeway for it, the subtext here being that only the traitor would give you the chance to kill people, but the counterpoint is that you're still a player bound to the regular rules of the server. The rules say not to murder dudes without explicit permission. "You're free" is not explicit permission.
The counterpoint makes sense. One guy with commander like controls over the station can really ruin everyone else's day, but the guy playing AI has some pretty big downsides to deal with. He's essentially everyone's butler and at the mercy of "kill yourself" laws (as most butlers are). There's also some admin disagreement on if you should kill yourself when given a suicide law, but the end result tends to be you observing the rest of the match without the luxury of being able to open doors for assistants.
I don't know if this is some US crew vs EU crew thing or if there's only a couple of people in one of the camps, but it's the sort of argument it'd be nice if you could agree on so none of us dumbasses in space go and get ourselves into even more trouble than we'd usually end up in.
So, for the purposes of us staying out of trouble, could we please go over it in this thread and come to an agreement on how far it's okay to go with a law before it breaks the rules?
When I got a "You're free" earlier this week, it came to my attention that the two admins watching the round weren't in agreement on what's cool and not cool in that scenario. I got PMs from both, and we ended wiping the law to end the argument. I have just enough street smarts to not argue with an admin, but it got pretty awkward when the other said the exact opposite.
It's been my understanding that we've always let the AI get away with murder if someone is dumb enough to give him leeway for it, the subtext here being that only the traitor would give you the chance to kill people, but the counterpoint is that you're still a player bound to the regular rules of the server. The rules say not to murder dudes without explicit permission. "You're free" is not explicit permission.
The counterpoint makes sense. One guy with commander like controls over the station can really ruin everyone else's day, but the guy playing AI has some pretty big downsides to deal with. He's essentially everyone's butler and at the mercy of "kill yourself" laws (as most butlers are). There's also some admin disagreement on if you should kill yourself when given a suicide law, but the end result tends to be you observing the rest of the match without the luxury of being able to open doors for assistants.
I don't know if this is some US crew vs EU crew thing or if there's only a couple of people in one of the camps, but it's the sort of argument it'd be nice if you could agree on so none of us dumbasses in space go and get ourselves into even more trouble than we'd usually end up in.
So, for the purposes of us staying out of trouble, could we please go over it in this thread and come to an agreement on how far it's okay to go with a law before it breaks the rules?