Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle

[NateTheSquid]

See title. Rathen's revenge is honestly a pretty OP spell, it's an instant stun to anyone close within a screen's length, you can't dodge it, it does a whole heap of brute, and has a chance to blow off a limb. Magic missile, the spell made to be a stun, is easy to outrun, cause it goes super slowly, and is very obvious to see before it gets you.

My suggestion is, remove the limb removal chance and/or the stun from rathen's revenge, and speed magic missiles up a bunch. Might help balance it out a bit cause right now people take rathen's for an instant, damaging, unavoidable stun and never use magic missile.

[Vitatroll]

I agree about arse nath. Not sure in what way to 'fix' it; there's a couple. I do know that this has been suggested a few times in the past.

MM I'm okay with. Pro-wiznerds tend to use this only at close ranges or in situations where people are cornered. It's still very useful for a complete free spell.

Though I really just came to post that the ass explosion is handled by the ass_explosion proc.

On the tin.

[Mageziya]

Though I really just came to post that the ass explosion is handled by the ass_explosion proc.

On the tin.

what even is this game

[Dr Zoidcrab]

Maybe make it so it only stuns/delimbs if you dont have an ass. Can see people stapling their butts back on to regain immunity only to have them blown off again seconds later.

[NateTheSquid]

Maybe make it so it only stuns/delimbs if you dont have an ass. Can see people stapling their butts back on to regain immunity only to have them blown off again seconds later.

I think it's much less likely to delimb if you have an ass, but it still can? And it always stuns, which is the main problem

[misto]

the abundant smoke clods it produces often provide good cover. the duration of the stun could be shortened/weakened and the spell would remain quite good

[Grumpchkin]

I think removing the smoke cloud and stun effect, at least for people with asses.

This spell is ridiculously good with both an AoE stun, smoke cover and delimbing.

[misto]

maybe rather than a guaranteed stun, it could do heavy stam damage? stamina remains an underutilized mechanic in favor of simple yes/no guaranteed stuns

[Zafhset]

maybe rather than a guaranteed stun, it could do heavy stam damage? stamina remains an underutilized mechanic in favor of simple yes/no guaranteed stuns

Good idea, misto.

[Roomba]

The easiest way to balance it out would be to remove the stun altogether, maybe crank up the delimbing chance if used against a person without an ass to compensate.

[Dr Zoidcrab]

Maybe make it so it only stuns/delimbs if you dont have an ass. Can see people stapling their butts back on to regain immunity only to have them blown off again seconds later.

I think it's much less likely to delimb if you have an ass, but it still can? And it always stuns, which is the main problem

That was badly written, what i meant was not stunning or delimbing if your ass hasn't already been blown off by the spell.

The smoke can still disarm people if im not mistaken, and lasts quite a while. Might actually be worse than the stun itself.

[poland spring]

Ditch the delimbing and make it do damage and stun if someone doesn't have an ass, and a mild stun if they do. The delimbing never made much sense to me if it's a butt spell

[NateTheSquid]

Ditch the delimbing and make it do damage and stun if someone doesn't have an ass, and a mild stun if they do.  The delimbing never made much sense to me if it's a butt spell

perfect