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Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - NateTheSquid - 01-23-2017
See title. Rathen's revenge is honestly a pretty OP spell, it's an instant stun to anyone close within a screen's length, you can't dodge it, it does a whole heap of brute, and has a chance to blow off a limb. Magic missile, the spell made to be a stun, is easy to outrun, cause it goes super slowly, and is very obvious to see before it gets you.
My suggestion is, remove the limb removal chance and/or the stun from rathen's revenge, and speed magic missiles up a bunch. Might help balance it out a bit cause right now people take rathen's for an instant, damaging, unavoidable stun and never use magic missile.
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - Vitatroll - 01-23-2017
I agree about arse nath. Not sure in what way to 'fix' it; there's a couple. I do know that this has been suggested a few times in the past.
MM I'm okay with. Pro-wiznerds tend to use this only at close ranges or in situations where people are cornered. It's still very useful for a complete free spell.
Though I really just came to post that the ass explosion is handled by the ass_explosion proc.
On the tin.
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - Mageziya - 01-23-2017
(01-23-2017, 06:57 PM)Vitatroll Wrote: Though I really just came to post that the ass explosion is handled by the ass_explosion proc.
On the tin.
what even is this game
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - Dr Zoidcrab - 01-24-2017
Maybe make it so it only stuns/delimbs if you dont have an ass. Can see people stapling their butts back on to regain immunity only to have them blown off again seconds later.
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - NateTheSquid - 01-24-2017
(01-24-2017, 02:41 AM)Dr Zoidcrab Wrote: Maybe make it so it only stuns/delimbs if you dont have an ass. Can see people stapling their butts back on to regain immunity only to have them blown off again seconds later.
I think it's much less likely to delimb if you have an ass, but it still can? And it always stuns, which is the main problem
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - misto - 01-24-2017
the abundant smoke clods it produces often provide good cover. the duration of the stun could be shortened/weakened and the spell would remain quite good
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - Grumpchkin - 01-24-2017
I think removing the smoke cloud and stun effect, at least for people with asses.
This spell is ridiculously good with both an AoE stun, smoke cover and delimbing.
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - misto - 01-25-2017
maybe rather than a guaranteed stun, it could do heavy stam damage? stamina remains an underutilized mechanic in favor of simple yes/no guaranteed stuns
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - Zafhset - 01-25-2017
(01-25-2017, 05:49 AM)misto Wrote: maybe rather than a guaranteed stun, it could do heavy stam damage? stamina remains an underutilized mechanic in favor of simple yes/no guaranteed stuns
Good idea, misto.
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - Roomba - 01-25-2017
The easiest way to balance it out would be to remove the stun altogether, maybe crank up the delimbing chance if used against a person without an ass to compensate.
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - Dr Zoidcrab - 01-25-2017
(01-24-2017, 08:06 PM)NateTheSquid Wrote:(01-24-2017, 02:41 AM)Dr Zoidcrab Wrote: Maybe make it so it only stuns/delimbs if you dont have an ass. Can see people stapling their butts back on to regain immunity only to have them blown off again seconds later.
I think it's much less likely to delimb if you have an ass, but it still can? And it always stuns, which is the main problem
That was badly written, what i meant was not stunning or delimbing if your ass hasn't already been blown off by the spell.
The smoke can still disarm people if im not mistaken, and lasts quite a while. Might actually be worse than the stun itself.
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - poland spring - 01-25-2017
Ditch the delimbing and make it do damage and stun if someone doesn't have an ass, and a mild stun if they do. The delimbing never made much sense to me if it's a butt spell
RE: Nerf Rathen's Revenge, buff Magic Missle - NateTheSquid - 01-25-2017
(01-25-2017, 10:22 PM)poland spring Wrote: Ditch the delimbing and make it do damage and stun if someone doesn't have an ass, and a mild stun if they do. The delimbing never made much sense to me if it's a butt spell
perfect