Changing up miscreants

[Vitatroll]

Honestly? Let's just ditch impotent miscreants. Redo miscreants and make them toothless traitors that can griff but not kill. Maybe give them an objective related tool or something. In order to keep it from being frustrating, something as simple as a handcuffing or a flashing could de-miscreant them.

As they are, miscreant objectives are just gameplay suggestions. There's nothing stopping you from doing them as a non-miscreant, and no reason to do them as a miscreant. It just never made any sense for a non-rp server.

Maybe this is derailing? Yeah, I'll make a new thread instead.

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[Frank_Stein]

Combine the concepts of gangs and miscreants. Add them to all round types

Gangs now share miscreant like goals running parallel to the round. Do they help or hinder the antags/crew, do they work on their goals, or just fuck around?

Can freely harm other gangs that exist

[warcrimes]

Combine the concepts of gangs and miscreants. Add them to all round types

Gangs now share miscreant like goals running parallel to the round. Do they help or hinder the antags/crew, do they work on their goals, or just fuck around?

Can freely harm other gangs that exist

[Maegor]

Redo miscreants and make them toothless traitors that can griff but not kill.

Please no

Combine the concepts of gangs and miscreants. Add them to all round types

Gangs now share miscreant like goals running parallel to the round. Do they help or hinder the antags/crew, do they work on their goals, or just fuck around?

Can freely harm other gangs that exist

Every round would be too much, 25% chance of appearing would be better

[Frank_Stein]

Oh yeah, I meant like, have it possible for a gang or gangs  to be in every round type, not just Gang mode.

Maybe you can't join them and just start as part of one, or it's capped to a small number at start when it's not actually Gang Mode.

But I like the idea of gangs being a in other round types because it gives Sec more to deal with and gives antags an additional challenges/opportunities

[Gannets]

More common Miscreant Gang is an idea with some merit. It'd have to be pretty clear that gang on gang violence is all yer allowed to do.

[Frank_Stein]

More common Miscreant Gang is an idea with some merit. It'd have to be pretty clear that gang on gang violence is all yer allowed to do.

And of course, going after antags if they're so inclined

Or maybe trying to convince them to take out their rivals

Just no directly harming the crew or station in their efforts

[Vitatroll]

Oh hey, not as bad as I thought my grumpy drunk guy post would be. Granted it went off kilter when I started suggesting things.  -- The idea of the thread was to gather ideas about making miscreants useful. That and an autistic grump-fest about miscreants never being actual miscreants.

Miscreants have no raison d'etre. My view is that we either give them bite, change what they are ('gimmick challenges' instead of 'miscreants'), or get rid of them completely.

[babayetu83]

miscreant objectives should actually be tangible completable goals. have it give you a random free item from the spacebux shop for completing all your goals

[Technature]

miscreant objectives should actually be tangible completable goals. have it give you a random free item from the spacebux shop for completing all your goals

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