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Changing up miscreants - Vitatroll - 11-29-2017
Honestly? Let's just ditch impotent miscreants. Redo miscreants and make them toothless traitors that can griff but not kill. Maybe give them an objective related tool or something. In order to keep it from being frustrating, something as simple as a handcuffing or a flashing could de-miscreant them.
As they are, miscreant objectives are just gameplay suggestions. There's nothing stopping you from doing them as a non-miscreant, and no reason to do them as a miscreant. It just never made any sense for a non-rp server.
Maybe this is derailing? Yeah, I'll make a new thread instead.
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RE: Changing up miscreants - Frank_Stein - 11-29-2017
Combine the concepts of gangs and miscreants. Add them to all round types
Gangs now share miscreant like goals running parallel to the round. Do they help or hinder the antags/crew, do they work on their goals, or just fuck around?
Can freely harm other gangs that exist
RE: Changing up miscreants - warcrimes - 11-29-2017
(11-29-2017, 08:41 PM)Frank_Stein Wrote: Combine the concepts of gangs and miscreants. Add them to all round types
Gangs now share miscreant like goals running parallel to the round. Do they help or hinder the antags/crew, do they work on their goals, or just fuck around?
Can freely harm other gangs that exist
RE: Changing up miscreants - Maegor - 11-30-2017
(11-29-2017, 08:35 PM)Vitatroll Wrote: Redo miscreants and make them toothless traitors that can griff but not kill.
Please no
(11-29-2017, 08:41 PM)Frank_Stein Wrote: Combine the concepts of gangs and miscreants. Add them to all round typesEvery round would be too much, 25% chance of appearing would be better
Gangs now share miscreant like goals running parallel to the round. Do they help or hinder the antags/crew, do they work on their goals, or just fuck around?
Can freely harm other gangs that exist
RE: Changing up miscreants - Frank_Stein - 11-30-2017
Oh yeah, I meant like, have it possible for a gang or gangs to be in every round type, not just Gang mode.
Maybe you can't join them and just start as part of one, or it's capped to a small number at start when it's not actually Gang Mode.
But I like the idea of gangs being a in other round types because it gives Sec more to deal with and gives antags an additional challenges/opportunities
RE: Changing up miscreants - Gannets - 11-30-2017
More common Miscreant Gang is an idea with some merit. It'd have to be pretty clear that gang on gang violence is all yer allowed to do.
RE: Changing up miscreants - Frank_Stein - 11-30-2017
(11-30-2017, 08:11 AM)Gannets Wrote: More common Miscreant Gang is an idea with some merit. It'd have to be pretty clear that gang on gang violence is all yer allowed to do.
And of course, going after antags if they're so inclined
Or maybe trying to convince them to take out their rivals
Just no directly harming the crew or station in their efforts
RE: Changing up miscreants - Vitatroll - 12-01-2017
Oh hey, not as bad as I thought my grumpy drunk guy post would be. Granted it went off kilter when I started suggesting things. -- The idea of the thread was to gather ideas about making miscreants useful. That and an autistic grump-fest about miscreants never being actual miscreants.
Miscreants have no raison d'etre. My view is that we either give them bite, change what they are ('gimmick challenges' instead of 'miscreants'), or get rid of them completely.
RE: Changing up miscreants - babayetu83 - 12-01-2017
miscreant objectives should actually be tangible completable goals. have it give you a random free item from the spacebux shop for completing all your goals
RE: Changing up miscreants - Technature - 12-02-2017
(12-01-2017, 06:19 PM)babayetu83 Wrote: miscreant objectives should actually be tangible completable goals. have it give you a random free item from the spacebux shop for completing all your goals
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