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    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

UrsulaMejor Wrote: -- That said, a word of advice: don't try to pretend that rules lawyering is a condition bordering on making you feel discriminated against, and especially don't compare it to raci...
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-23-2013, 06:34 PM
    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

BlackPhoenix Wrote: -- Winterous Wrote: -- It's always interesting to hear other people's perspective of your behaviour. -- That's a thing you just said. -- Yes, yes it is. I haven't been saying th...
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-22-2013, 01:04 AM
    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

CaptainBravo Wrote: -- a yes unless we find out you're a clone of hitler. -- Captain_Bravo Wrote: -- I vote No, because I found out he is a clone of Hitler. -- Wh-... What? Why are there two people ...
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-21-2013, 07:29 PM
    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

Wow I had no idea I'd pissed anyone off like that back on mushroom, it's hard to evaluate one's own behaviour of course. Maybe I screwed around a bunch and you just had a few bad experiences with me? ...
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-20-2013, 01:12 PM
    Thread: Hardhats / Engineering Helmets.
Post: Re: Hardhats / Engineering Helmets.

Spy_Guy Wrote: -- They also serve as a free flashlight, making the dark halls of inner engineering that much cosier. :v: -- I don't think it always works that way, it seems to me that sometimes the ...
Winterous Resolved 3 2,081 09-20-2013, 01:09 PM
    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

BlackPhoenix Wrote: -- If you don't see him screaming racism when somebody tells him not to rules lawyer as dumb, I don't know what to tell you. -- You could try telling them to interpret what I said...
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-20-2013, 09:13 AM
    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

Yeah, you are allowed to have an opinion, and you're allowed to speak it. I merely encouraged people to get information about what I said from the original context, instead of from you.
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-18-2013, 06:09 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

I don't think the implications of the law need to be lain bare, but rather just provide some more examples of how it applies; I don't think that could be abused. Also a lizard is crawling up my chest ...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 04:20 PM
    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

Phoenix is taking what I said completely out of context and grossly misrepresenting it; please ignore anything he says on the matter here, and just read what I said in the correct context. The link to...
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-18-2013, 03:58 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

popecrunch Wrote: -- If you want to discuss whether or not the admin reacted poorly, please continue to do so. If you wish to discuss the finer points of law one, please do so in a thread in Discuss...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 03:55 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Wydamn Wrote: -- By affecting even just his location, you change his situation in unpredictable ways. -- I think we should call this the butte-erfly effect :v:
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 03:16 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Wydamn Wrote: -- Winterous Wrote: -- not true, if I hadn't started dragging him he would have sat in space until he died -- That is the problem. By attempting to save him, he was no longer doomed to...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 03:07 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Katznelson Wrote: -- Causing harm? You as a borg abandoned him in mid-rescue whereby causing him even more greater harm through extending the amount of time spent in deadly space. -- That's not true,...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 02:53 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Mrduckbillface Wrote: -- Winter don't think I'm on your side or anything, you need to chill out way more than Huk does. Racism?!?! Are you kidding me? -- Chill out? I've been (excluding response to...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 02:50 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Katz the "through inaction" part of the law isn't in the game anymore, it only requires the being not to cause harm through their actions.
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 02:26 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Preid Wrote: -- CaptainBravo Wrote: -- the guy was still suffocating to death at the time. -- Ah, I see now that I misinterpreted the first post as him having just died, that is quite embarrassing. ...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 02:00 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Well that's a fair enough conclusion, and I hope it gets put up on the wiki as an example of indirect harm.
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 10:44 AM
    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

BlackPhoenix Wrote: -- No, as you're willing to rules lawyer and then say "You're doing the same thing as racism to me" when you get yelled at for it. That is -not- a quality we need in a mentor. -- ...
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-18-2013, 10:02 AM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Thanks Sundance, I think you're dead right.
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 10:01 AM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

popecrunch Wrote: -- Did you seriously just compare you getting yelled at for rules lawyering to racism. -- You're misrepresenting what I said, or maybe I miscommunicated what I meant. I said "I am r...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 09:02 AM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

Readster Wrote: -- Everything about this thread is stupid and letting somebody die because they're a traitor is stupid. -- Stupid yes, in retrospect what I did served in no way to make the game more ...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 07:30 AM
    Thread: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake
Post: Re: Mentor Application: Mr. Melonbake

TheRedScare Wrote: -- I'm on the fence about this as your recent slip up as a borg and your attempt to find AI law loopholes kinda makes me lean more towards a thumbs down, however if you redeem your...
Winterous Approved Applications 45 20,563 09-18-2013, 05:59 AM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

This is what I'm talking about, the fact that what constitutes CAUSING harm can be debated like this; a conclusion is needed. And to clarify what happened... He was in space, over space; I dragged hi...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-18-2013, 05:56 AM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

BlackPhoenix Wrote: -- Winterous Wrote: -- I'd rather not have mentioned it, but I am this way due to being Autistic. A mental "disability"; how is that so different from racism? -- There's a guy w...
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-17-2013, 11:30 PM
    Thread: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18th of September
Post: Re: HukHukHuk, server #2, about 6:30am GMT+10, 18t...

I can, however, completely appreciate why you expect that Huk; admins often have to deal with shitbags and make decisions based upon limited evidence, and I certainly don't envy that responsibility.
Winterous Archived 57 27,491 09-17-2013, 10:50 PM