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RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - Tarmunora - 06-29-2017
Small issue (maybe) on a lowpop round today I rolled double-traitor (5-6 objectives, listed twice at end of round) with traitor turned off. Fairly certain I didn't accidenatlly use a token either. Maybe it's just a lowpop thing and too many people had traitor turned off?
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - warcrimes - 06-29-2017
Oh yeah I got that too one round, I think I was the only antag ( at round start anyways )
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - Haprenti - 06-30-2017
It might recquire some kind of protection against, if it happened, people joining rounds with antags turned off when they don't intend to play, just to suicide/stay afk in crew quarters and have their counter influenced, with significant results over time.
It may not happen but it could.
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - Wire - 06-30-2017
While I'm not denying the possibility entirely, the antag weighting system shouldn't be the cause of "I got traitor even with traitor turned off". The weighting system operates after the initial pool of "valid" players are picked, so presumably that code (which is old and shit) is busted in some magical way.
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - warcrimes - 06-30-2017
How does the weighting code interact with late joins?
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - Wire - 06-30-2017
It doesn't interact with late join chances whatsoever currently. Maybe it will in the future but meh.
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - warcrimes - 06-30-2017
sorry, what i meant was not changing the latejoin antag chances, but whether or not joining after roundstart counts as a round?
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - Wire - 06-30-2017
Ah, yes being selected for a latejoin antag position counts for future weighting.
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - Arborinus - 06-30-2017
(06-30-2017, 12:16 PM)Wire Wrote: Ah, yes being selected for a latejoin antag position counts for future weighting.
*scream
So the many, many times I've been chosen for late join antag with all antag choices off when the shuttle is coming in 3 minutes is reducing my chances for when I actually want to turn antags on?
Can latejoin please be fixed with antag choices please, it's even worse now with this revelation.
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - warcrimes - 06-30-2017
that should balance out with all the times you latejoin regular right as the shuttle is docking and die in the hellfire in the bar.
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - Frank_Stein - 06-30-2017
I'd just create a secondary weighting system purely for late joins
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - NateTheSquid - 07-05-2017
It's been pretty highpop, 30-40 people all day, and I haven't gotten any kind of antag at least, hmm, 10 times in a row? Including yesterday, where it was slightly lower pop, probably nearly 15 rounds in a row. Unless it's been switched so it rolls for jobs before it rolls for antags, then what the heck is going on. I've had AI on favourite the whole time
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - Wire - 07-06-2017
If a lot of people "new" to the weighting system are in a round, rolling will appear as random as before (as everyone has the same base weighting if never chosen before), so it could simply be that you were unlucky enough to be around a bunch of new scrubs.
That being said I won't outright deny the possibility of a bug screwing stuff up. As much as I like to believe so, I am unfortunately not infallible. Nate can you log in to the irc some time so we can co-ordinate your games and I can see what's going on?
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - New525 - 07-06-2017
(06-30-2017, 12:16 PM)Wire Wrote: Ah, yes being selected for a latejoin antag position counts for future weighting.
RE: Antag Weighting Feedback - OMJ - 07-07-2017
can we like not do that with latejoins
(07-07-2017, 03:27 PM)OMJ Wrote: can we like not do that with latejoins
(07-07-2017, 03:27 PM)OMJ Wrote: can we like not do that with latejoins
(07-07-2017, 03:27 PM)OMJ Wrote: can we like not do that with latejoins