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rework materials from the ground up - Nnystyxx - 08-08-2016
it doesn't work and causes problems
any given part of it bugs mercilessly or is so niche as to be irrelevant
there is a giant room in cog2 devoted to it that does nothing and wastes space that could be used for something that interacts with QM more
the material recombobulator is literally worthless, 100%
all it's particularly good for that I can recall is making opulent gold floors and turning everything into erebite, as well as spending all round trying to get miners to do their job so you can make unstoppable death armor/a gun that never runs out due to a bug that just got fixed anyway
**note: i know this is a horrid massive undertaking but the system has become bloated and dysfunctional
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Noah Buttes - 08-08-2016
(08-08-2016, 03:04 PM)Nnystyxx Wrote: **note: i know this is a horrid massive undertaking but the system has become bloated and dysfunctional
It's actually pretty much the exact opposite problem.
It's VERY unfinished, and it's missing a whole bunch of stuff that it really should have.
It's anything but bloated.
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Nnystyxx - 08-08-2016
(08-08-2016, 05:39 PM)Noah Buttes Wrote:(08-08-2016, 03:04 PM)Nnystyxx Wrote: **note: i know this is a horrid massive undertaking but the system has become bloated and dysfunctional
It's actually pretty much the exact opposite problem.
It's VERY unfinished, and it's missing a whole bunch of stuff that it really should have.
It's anything but bloated.
oh ok
I guess what I really mean is that it seems sort of lumbering and misformed; the parts missing are making it janky and prone to issues and since it seems sort of shadowy and incomprehensible at times, I mistook it for actually being big but broken when really it's missing vital organs
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Noah Buttes - 08-08-2016
(08-08-2016, 07:50 PM)Nnystyxx Wrote:It's basically anti-atmos(08-08-2016, 05:39 PM)Noah Buttes Wrote:(08-08-2016, 03:04 PM)Nnystyxx Wrote: **note: i know this is a horrid massive undertaking but the system has become bloated and dysfunctional
It's actually pretty much the exact opposite problem.
It's VERY unfinished, and it's missing a whole bunch of stuff that it really should have.
It's anything but bloated.
oh ok
I guess what I really mean is that it seems sort of lumbering and misformed; the parts missing are making it janky and prone to issues and since it seems sort of shadowy and incomprehensible at times, I mistook it for actually being big but broken when really it's missing vital organs
RE: rework materials from the ground up - medsal15 - 08-08-2016
Atmos and the material system are the 2 things nobody dares approaching because if they are fucked up, the game wont work anymore. They're like the 2 SS13 final bosses for coders.
RE: rework materials from the ground up - zcamperz - 08-08-2016
do you know how long and horrible that would fucking be
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Noah Buttes - 08-08-2016
(08-08-2016, 09:27 PM)zcamperz Wrote: do you know how long and horrible that would fucking be
A couple months at least.
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Nnystyxx - 08-08-2016
(08-08-2016, 09:27 PM)zcamperz Wrote: do you know how long and horrible that would fucking be
YES I KNOW EXACTLY
RE: rework materials from the ground up - misto - 08-09-2016
all i know is that i miss when people were actually making useful things out of it like armor jumpsuits. my god, and adding chemicals to all sorts of shit. those were wild times. i made a bathsalts infused jumpsuit once
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Roomba - 08-09-2016
It would be nice if the department-specific materials fabricators were brought back, at least. A good half of the stuff you used to be able to make vanished when everything was consolidated into the workbench. I miss making telecrystal champagne glasses and golden stunbatons.
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Erik - 08-09-2016
The materials system itself is alright-ish, but yes it could use some work.
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Nnystyxx - 08-09-2016
We lost things like golden toolboxes. I miss them
You know what would really be nice is if you could just scan given simple-enough objects into the combobulater and make like, blueprints for their shape that take what they're made of
Extinguishers take metals, cups take crystals, et cetera, et cetera
EDIT: That saves adding a listing for every single object, make it kinda like the ruckenginur
RE: rework materials from the ground up - amaranthineApocalypse - 08-09-2016
also, bring back fabric alloy jumpsuits, those sounded really cool and i haven't been here long enough to experience them D:
RE: rework materials from the ground up - ZeWaka - 08-09-2016
(08-09-2016, 06:52 AM)amaranthineApocalypse Wrote: also, bring back fabric alloy jumpsuits, those sounded really cool and i haven't been here long enough to experience them D:
I thought you could still do this...
RE: rework materials from the ground up - Noah Buttes - 08-09-2016
(08-09-2016, 06:28 PM)zewaka Wrote:(08-09-2016, 06:52 AM)amaranthineApocalypse Wrote: also, bring back fabric alloy jumpsuits, those sounded really cool and i haven't been here long enough to experience them D:
I thought you could still do this...
Only with flesh and blob.
Flesh because people can jump in and then you stick another piece of metal in.
Blob because it works for some reason.