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Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO people - Erik - 09-27-2015
basically that, it's shit, people abuse the heck out of it.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Noah Buttes - 09-27-2015
It was originally police baton exclusive. It's a feature though, not a bug.
That having been said, I could've sworn marquesas was removing this from normal stun batons.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Ed Venture - 09-27-2015
If it is a feature then its a shit one and it is getting abused.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - BaneOfGiygas - 09-27-2015
Ed Venture Wrote:If it is a feature then its a shit one and it is getting abused.Yeah this pretty much. I actually adminhelped this bug because I didn't feel up to publicly announcing that it was a thing but since a thread's been gone and made I might as well go ahead and say that yeah this is pretty terrible. If this is a bug, it's a pretty bad bug that should be fixed. If it's a feature, then I am absolutely baffled as to how anyone would think that it's a good idea.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Erik - 09-28-2015
Noah Buttes Wrote:It was originally police baton exclusive. It's a feature though, not a bug.
I refuse to believe that this is a feature, since it's horribly OP.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Sundance - 09-28-2015
The reason as to why people is saying it's a feature is that it's been pretty much around since the days of donut, you scrub
But I agree, it's rather overpowered way of keeping people in a stunlock. I'd throw my vote in for a good bit of stamina loss, but not instant stun.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Noah Buttes - 09-28-2015
I found the post by Marquesas I was referring to:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5701&hilit=baton&start=30#p64532
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - somepotato - 10-01-2015
Wouldn't hurt to buff powered stun batons while we're at it
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - BaneOfGiygas - 10-27-2015
Still a thing, still terrible.
A major part of my confusion is the fact that the police baton, a traitor (albeit surplus crate exclusive) item apparently made for the explicit purpose of not requiring power to stun people, is actually less useful than an actual plain old stun baton turned off, which makes one question why police batons would even have any business existing from a gameplay standpoint, much less being rendered exclusive to traitors.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Winklabom - 11-05-2015
I can confirm that this is still occurring and is probably one of the worst persistent bugs (feature?) I've encountered.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - magic mountain - 11-06-2015
this actually sounds really bad
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Grayshift - 11-08-2015
I don't think this is a really big problem. This has been in place since before I started playing.
The dangerous component of a baton is the lengthy stun, and ten charges goes a very long way. I've never had to recharge a baton from normal usage. Secondly, I'm fairly certain the harm intent beating stun is much, much shorter than the charged stun. As in short enough that it's difficult to handcuff someone in that timeframe, it's something that requires you to keep beating them continually to keep them down. Removing the harm intent+baton off stun would only make a minimal difference in the strength of the baton in the hands of an antag.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Grayshift - 11-08-2015
Baton charged is a 22 second stun, baton beating comes out to 9 seconds.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Ed Venture - 11-08-2015
The issue is that they keep beating you to the point where you are in the negatives in stamina. So not only does it stun you but it does damage and if repeatedly hit you pass out. Then they just repeat it so you are not only stunned locked but knocked out so you can't even call for help.
Re: Unpowered stun batons ignore stamina and instantly KO pe - Ed Venture - 11-08-2015
Also it's not just related to antags as I've seen security officers resort to this before. and as Sundance said here it's pretty much an instant stunlock plus brute damage.
Sundance Wrote:The reason as to why people is saying it's a feature is that it's been pretty much around since the days of donut, you scrub
But I agree, it's rather overpowered way of keeping people in a stunlock. I'd throw my vote in for a good bit of stamina loss, but not instant stun.
I honestly feel that stun weapons need a slight nerf. Tasers more then stun batons but that's nether here nor there.