(10-12-2018, 08:50 AM)Firebarrage Wrote: I have noticed this too. I think I know what causes it. You can pick up a deactivated saber because it is a small item. But if you drop an activated one and try to pick it up you cant (I assume because it is no longer a small item). This is likely caused by not being able to use a large item as a critter. 

CSabers should probably be a consistent size, either small or large.

(10-12-2018, 08:50 AM)Firebarrage Wrote: I have noticed this too. I think I know what causes it. You can pick up a deactivated saber because it is a small item. But if you drop an activated one and try to pick it up you cant (I assume because it is no longer a small item). This is likely caused by not being able to use a large item as a critter. 

CSabers should probably be a consistent size, either small or large.

(10-12-2018, 02:29 PM)cyberTripping Wrote:

(10-12-2018, 08:50 AM)Firebarrage Wrote: I have noticed this too. I think I know what causes it. You can pick up a deactivated saber because it is a small item. But if you drop an activated one and try to pick it up you cant (I assume because it is no longer a small item). This is likely caused by not being able to use a large item as a critter. 

CSabers should probably be a consistent size, either small or large.

I'm pretty sure the whole idea between the two sizes is one of the main features of the csaber. Keeping the hilt in some obscure part of your storage to keep from getting found out, that sort of thing. But you gotta wind up and wind down when taking it out or putting it away so you can't just leap into action with a single reach into a box in your backpack.

Keep in mind i don't actually use csabers so i'm speaking entirely out of my ass

(10-13-2018, 09:05 AM)Noah Buttes Wrote:

(10-12-2018, 02:29 PM)cyberTripping Wrote:

(10-12-2018, 08:50 AM)Firebarrage Wrote: I have noticed this too. I think I know what causes it. You can pick up a deactivated saber because it is a small item. But if you drop an activated one and try to pick it up you cant (I assume because it is no longer a small item). This is likely caused by not being able to use a large item as a critter. 

CSabers should probably be a consistent size, either small or large.

I'm pretty sure the whole idea between the two sizes is one of the main features of the csaber. Keeping the hilt in some obscure part of your storage to keep from getting found out, that sort of thing. But you gotta wind up and wind down when taking it out or putting it away so you can't just leap into action with a single reach into a box in your backpack.

Keep in mind i don't actually use csabers so i'm speaking entirely out of my ass

That is the intention, yes.

(10-12-2018, 08:50 AM)Firebarrage Wrote: I have noticed this too. I think I know what causes it. You can pick up a deactivated saber because it is a small item. But if you drop an activated one and try to pick it up you cant (I assume because it is no longer a small item). This is likely caused by not being able to use a large item as a critter. 

CSabers should probably be a consistent size, either small or large.

(10-13-2018, 07:20 PM)Superlagg Wrote:

(10-12-2018, 08:50 AM)Firebarrage Wrote: I have noticed this too. I think I know what causes it. You can pick up a deactivated saber because it is a small item. But if you drop an activated one and try to pick it up you cant (I assume because it is no longer a small item). This is likely caused by not being able to use a large item as a critter. 

CSabers should probably be a consistent size, either small or large.

From what I can tell, and this from months ago, item size only prevents critters from picking things up, not using them. I found this as a ghost critter when I got stuck in a window, in desperation to nibble the heck out of the guy who killed me, I clicked on a light tube fixture and somehow picked it up, despite them being way to big for little old me. Managed to smash it, break free, and shank someone with the tube.

(10-14-2018, 11:07 AM)MrMagolor Wrote:

(10-13-2018, 07:20 PM)Superlagg Wrote:

(10-12-2018, 08:50 AM)Firebarrage Wrote: I have noticed this too. I think I know what causes it. You can pick up a deactivated saber because it is a small item. But if you drop an activated one and try to pick it up you cant (I assume because it is no longer a small item). This is likely caused by not being able to use a large item as a critter. 

CSabers should probably be a consistent size, either small or large.

From what I can tell, and this from months ago, item size only prevents critters from picking things up, not using them. I found this as a ghost critter when I got stuck in a window, in desperation to nibble the heck out of the guy who killed me, I clicked on a light tube fixture and somehow picked it up, despite them being way to big for little old me. Managed to smash it, break free, and shank someone with the tube.

But this applies to birds. Birds, being polymorph-class critters, can pick up more or less every item that a human can.

(10-14-2018, 12:04 PM)Studenterhue Wrote:

(10-14-2018, 11:07 AM)MrMagolor Wrote:

(10-13-2018, 07:20 PM)Superlagg Wrote:

(10-12-2018, 08:50 AM)Firebarrage Wrote: I have noticed this too. I think I know what causes it. You can pick up a deactivated saber because it is a small item. But if you drop an activated one and try to pick it up you cant (I assume because it is no longer a small item). This is likely caused by not being able to use a large item as a critter. 

CSabers should probably be a consistent size, either small or large.

From what I can tell, and this from months ago, item size only prevents critters from picking things up, not using them. I found this as a ghost critter when I got stuck in a window, in desperation to nibble the heck out of the guy who killed me, I clicked on a light tube fixture and somehow picked it up, despite them being way to big for little old me. Managed to smash it, break free, and shank someone with the tube.

But this applies to birds. Birds, being polymorph-class critters, can pick up more or less every item that a human can.

Eh, polymorph-class critters (which is an arbitrary tier that I pretty much just made up for sake of classification that is not in any code) are necessarily that way. Some can't use intercoms (which somehow involves picking them up), some can interact with them just fine. Timberdoodles are really weird; they have hat slots, but can't pick up any hats, including paper hats. Their equipment slots are pretty inconsistent, though that's a thing for another thread.

It's pretty reasonable to assume ghost critters and critters created by polymorph could have similar pick-up restrictions. You can be polymorphed into a roach, for example, and it's not that different being a ghost critter roach.

Like Noah said, the real oddity is that the saber doesn't work all. Sure, maybe birds picking up csabers is an oversight, in the same way ghost critters picking up flashes was. Maybe it's not, and whoever made the code for birds fully intended that. But csabers simply doing absolutely nothing is most certainly a bug.

(10-17-2018, 01:05 PM)Berrik Wrote: This is a feature IMO. Birds shouldn't be able to use weapons meant for people because they're birds.

(10-17-2018, 01:05 PM)Berrik Wrote: This is a feature IMO. Birds shouldn't be able to use weapons meant for people because they're birds.