(03-01-2018, 12:14 AM)Tombi Wrote:

(02-28-2018, 11:21 PM)Technature Wrote: How can a straitjacket prevent you from holding your breath?

That's...that's just dumb.

Yet mustering the willpower to asphyxiate yourself is not?

(02-15-2018, 08:14 AM)The Grim Sleeper Wrote:

(02-15-2018, 07:06 AM)Frank_Stein Wrote: Maybe a time based machine that runs a background check that definitively answers whether or not they are an antag. 

You couldn't run it on everyone, but you could use it on people you had suspicions over, or people that you wanted to add to your web of trust. Having trusted vigilantes or being able to recruit informants to act as plants and create sting operations would be really fun

I like this. A 'Crime Computer'.
What if you could insert some evidence you found on a crime-scene to influence the timer?

There is the thing of a 1/server-pop chance of 'you haven't done anything bad (that we know of), but the Computer says you are an Antag, so u git brig'. But I would consider that an unlucky breaks for an Antag (and bad form for the Guards on duty), rather then a real issue. It's not like 'bad luck' is not a know and accepted factor on Goonstation.

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Another idea: what if we allowed security guards to 'Call the NT special forces'?
If somebody goes on a mad rampage and kills half the station, the guard on duty (let's not get too optimistic on number people playing the role) can push a button, and a few of the dead people will respawn with armor and big guns?
I know this horribly violates the 'no respawns'-principle, but this 'a questionable quality, anything can be suggested'-thread.

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Auto-Warden: Works like the brig-chute, but also: strips people of their gear, puts that gear into an specific-ID-card locker, sets their ID to not have Prsion Access, suits them up in an orange jumpsuit and keeps track of the sentence time per person (rather then the current 'whomever gets to the parole-chute first').

(03-02-2018, 03:12 PM)atomic1fire Wrote:

(02-15-2018, 08:14 AM)The Grim Sleeper Wrote:

(02-15-2018, 07:06 AM)Frank_Stein Wrote: stuff

things

>NT Special forces.

terrible side suggestion, Budget special forces: Cheaper version of the NT special forces that have terrible weaponry and nonexistant armor staffed exclusively by people given the objective to be "new recruits". Like police academy but called in for  emergencies. Anyone spawned for this role is pretty much on their own when it comes to dealing with a rampager.

(03-02-2018, 03:12 PM)atomic1fire Wrote:

(02-15-2018, 08:14 AM)The Grim Sleeper Wrote:

(02-15-2018, 07:06 AM)Frank_Stein Wrote: Maybe a time based machine that runs a background check that definitively answers whether or not they are an antag. 

You couldn't run it on everyone, but you could use it on people you had suspicions over, or people that you wanted to add to your web of trust. Having trusted vigilantes or being able to recruit informants to act as plants and create sting operations would be really fun

I like this. A 'Crime Computer'.
What if you could insert some evidence you found on a crime-scene to influence the timer?

There is the thing of a 1/server-pop chance of 'you haven't done anything bad (that we know of), but the Computer says you are an Antag, so u git brig'. But I would consider that an unlucky breaks for an Antag (and bad form for the Guards on duty), rather then a real issue. It's not like 'bad luck' is not a know and accepted factor on Goonstation.

<hr>
Another idea: what if we allowed security guards to 'Call the NT special forces'?
If somebody goes on a mad rampage and kills half the station, the guard on duty (let's not get too optimistic on number people playing the role) can push a button, and a few of the dead people will respawn with armor and big guns?
I know this horribly violates the 'no respawns'-principle, but this 'a questionable quality, anything can be suggested'-thread.

<hr>
Auto-Warden: Works like the brig-chute, but also: strips people of their gear, puts that gear into an specific-ID-card locker, sets their ID to not have Prsion Access, suits them up in an orange jumpsuit and keeps track of the sentence time per person (rather then the current 'whomever gets to the parole-chute first').

>NT Special forces.

terrible side suggestion, Budget special forces: Cheaper version of the NT special forces that have terrible weaponry and nonexistant armor staffed exclusively by people given the objective to be "new recruits". Like police academy but called in for  emergencies. Anyone spawned for this role is pretty much on their own when it comes to dealing with a rampager.

(03-06-2018, 10:51 AM)Firepower Wrote: Can we PLEASE change the camera monitor computers so that they don't refresh to the bottom of the list whenever you click on a camera? Makes it really difficult to actually use them and check multiple areas quickly.

(03-06-2018, 12:48 PM)SimianC Wrote:

(03-06-2018, 10:51 AM)Firepower Wrote: Can we PLEASE change the camera monitor computers so that they don't refresh to the bottom of the list whenever you click on a camera? Makes it really difficult to actually use them and check multiple areas quickly.

This. The constant refreshing makes viewing security cameras as a crewman frustrating and borderline pointless with how slow it is.

Ideally, I'd love for them to function similar to the AI's camera or at least reach a level of usefulness that would make it feasible for an officer to stay in security and provide logistical support using the cameras (tracking suspects, summoning securitrons, etc.).

Even just fixing the constant refreshing would make them much more useful and encourage players to use them.

(03-06-2018, 04:07 PM)SimianC Wrote: Thinking about this a little bit more, I realized one of the reasons players might be hesitant to give security a try is that they aren't robust, this was definetely the case for me.

Introducing a Security role that focuses on support from behind the scenes, similar to the one described in my previous post, might be a nice way to ease players into the role and allow more experienced sec players teach them.

(03-06-2018, 04:49 PM)Wisecrack34 Wrote:

(03-06-2018, 04:07 PM)SimianC Wrote: Thinking about this a little bit more, I realized one of the reasons players might be hesitant to give security a try is that they aren't robust, this was definetely the case for me.

Introducing a Security role that focuses on support from behind the scenes, similar to the one described in my previous post, might be a nice way to ease players into the role and allow more experienced sec players teach them.

In General adding Sec classes might make people a tad less hesitant to choose them, id put forward splitting it into regular, medical, specialist (Deals with bombs threats, witchcraft, etc.) and Support (For those who can't Robust and would rather act as dispatch n such)

(03-08-2018, 03:30 AM)Haprenti Wrote: About the suggestion to force security officers into the round. Have an option, that, when enabled, override your occupations choices to make you security officer in case there's less than 2 or 3 security officers.
This wouldn't solve all cases, but at least it wouldn't force people that aren't willing to play sec.

That would be for people who don't mind playing security but that would rather do something else if the job already has applicants.
They can still make a job choice, but know that they can be enrolled as security if the need is there.

And if you really don't want to play security for a moment, then just disable it.

A few bonus spacebux could be given in case that option is enabled and you're enrolled in security. Some "volunteer bonus".
It might have already been proposed, I haven't read the whole thread.

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