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RE: Igniter/Signaller Aseemblies for Pipebombs - ferriswheel1 - 09-09-2017

Signalers on pipebombs sounds good, more mad bomber gimmicks also good. It's annoying to have to make TTVs anytime you want a remote-detonated bomb. Uptown funk yo.


RE: Igniter/Signaller Aseemblies for Pipebombs - Nnystyxx - 09-09-2017

I'm honestly fucking astonished signalling assemblies aren't in the game for pipe bombs. What the hell??? Think of all the wasted potential for gimmicks

(also yeah I'd like it if there was a 'blank' pipebomb charge, like pumping it full of air or something)


RE: Igniter/Signaller Aseemblies for Pipebombs - The Grim Sleeper - 09-09-2017

What exactly is the difference between a pipebomb and a beaker assembly?
I've noticed my black-powder beaker assembly didn't really pop like I'd expect.


RE: Igniter/Signaller Aseemblies for Pipebombs - Nnystyxx - 09-09-2017

(09-09-2017, 01:37 PM)The Grim Sleeper Wrote: What exactly is the difference between a pipebomb and a beaker assembly?
I've noticed my black-powder beaker assembly didn't really pop like I'd expect.

afaik pipe bombs apply a spark/emit WAY WAY WAY more heat to their reagents when they go off and may use different scaling code altogether
whereas beaker assemblies are nefariously fucking difficult to get to behave when it comes to igniting reagents in my experience


RE: Igniter/Signaller Aseemblies for Pipebombs - Cyfarfod - 09-09-2017

(09-09-2017, 01:44 PM)Nnystyxx Wrote:
(09-09-2017, 01:37 PM)The Grim Sleeper Wrote: What exactly is the difference between a pipebomb and a beaker assembly?
I've noticed my black-powder beaker assembly didn't really pop like I'd expect.

afaik pipe bombs apply a spark/emit WAY WAY WAY more heat to their reagents when they go off and may use different scaling code altogether
whereas beaker assemblies are nefariously fucking difficult to get to behave when it comes to igniting reagents in my experience

I can confirm that is definitely the current situation, a 100-unit blackpowder beaker assembly does damage comparable to a welding fuel pipe bomb.


RE: Igniter/Signaller Aseemblies for Pipebombs - ferriswheel1 - 09-09-2017

(09-09-2017, 01:54 PM)Cyfarfod Wrote:
(09-09-2017, 01:44 PM)Nnystyxx Wrote:
(09-09-2017, 01:37 PM)The Grim Sleeper Wrote: What exactly is the difference between a pipebomb and a beaker assembly?
I've noticed my black-powder beaker assembly didn't really pop like I'd expect.

afaik pipe bombs apply a spark/emit WAY WAY WAY more heat to their reagents when they go off and may use different scaling code altogether
whereas beaker assemblies are nefariously fucking difficult to get to behave when it comes to igniting reagents in my experience

I can confirm that is definitely the current situation, a 100-unit blackpowder beaker assembly does damage comparable to a welding fuel pipe bomb.

Makes sense from a certain perspective: Pipe bombs contain their chemicals in a smaller, confined space surrounded by shrapnel-making material. Beakers are glass jars with a lighter attached.


RE: Igniter/Signaller Aseemblies for Pipebombs - The Grim Sleeper - 09-09-2017

Story refinement: (That means I've looked at the code and thought about it, but don't have the time to do anything... yet)
In /code/obj/item/grenades.dm:
Adding additional options for the other assembly types looks trivial (line 922 - 932, copy and replace the assembly argument and output object).
Looking at /code/obj/item/assembly/misc_assemblies.dm for inspiration.
duplicating the basic pipe-bomb type for the 2 new detonator-types looks like the quickest way to do this, and just giving them a 'receive_signal()' with a 'do_explode()' and replacing the 'attack_self' function (arming options) might be enough to get functional bombs.

(09-09-2017, 01:44 PM)Nnystyxx Wrote: use different scaling code altogether

And yes: the pipebombs on_blowthefuckup actually takes into account material strength (of the pipehousing) to enhance the explosion, even more so for erebrite and plasmastone.


RE: Igniter/Signaller Aseemblies for Pipebombs - The Grim Sleeper - 09-18-2017

Hold my "Radio/Igniter/Pipebomb Assembly", I'm going in!

https://forum.ss13.co/showthread.php?tid=9364

BOOM!!!
Ahahahaha!