Head of Personnel Suggestions

[Ed Venture]

I never had a argument? Your entire argument from day one was that it's a issue that's not even happening and that security will be nothing but Super-Cops if they dare to stop the HoP from fucking them over.

At the time of this post I had no idea you were one of the shit players doing this.

no one plays sec because it's the most antifun job in the game and acting like an annoying supercop will do nothing but make people hate sec more and put people off from playing sec

You then replied to one person saying how Security is not fun which alot of people disagreed with you on.

sec isn't very fun because of how reactive is. not many people derive pleasure from just sitting and waiting for stuff to happen so then they have something to do

I am posting this quotes to show you have a bias towards Security and I'd go as far as to say you even hold a Grudge on the Job and it's players after hearing stories of you in recent times and experiencing you raiding security twice and playing HoP and giving out all access. Each time you do it you suicide the moment we try to arrest you. This is after Grayshift said he will ban people like you who griefs Security by proxy.

and the all access id thing isn't even a problem, this was just started by ed venture who just loves to make kneejerk complaints/threads

After a few days and seeing how people were still talking about the issue you decided that the way you play your rounds and how you fuck with Security is in danger. So you try to discredit me and accuse me of pretty much lying.

While we are at it let's look at the definition of the phrase of "Kneejerk reaction"

"It's an expression/saying meaning: An immediate unthinking emotional reaction produced by an event or statement to which the reacting person is highly sensitive"

See nothing about how I handled this supports your claim that I was having a Kneejerk Reaction. I waiting Two weeks to see if it happen more often. At first it was twice out of a five round session I would play a day. Then as we got to the second week it started happening Four out of Five rounds I played. At this point I started thinking about how to bring it up to the community while at the same time getting feedback on other crimes that go unpunished.

i don't think blaming the hop will do anything. if anything it just boils down to powergamers powergaming and wanting weapons and the fact that people just love to fuck with security. you've played for years. you should know these things

Now we get to the point where you start defending HoPs that do this and how they are not to blame. To which I respond with this.

Stopping the HoPs from giving random people all access will help tremendously. I do know these things and I see ways to slow it down. It's always around this time of year when this type of behavior gets unbearable as well. HoPs just give them a shortcut and after seeing round after round of people running up to the HoP and asking for All access and the HoP just giving it away I had to say something and I for sure put some of the blame on them.

The "that's just have it is deal with it" mentality is a poor excuse for this behavior. I don't care how long some people have been doing it and if that mentality stuck in the past then nothing in the game or the community would have changed. When it becomes excessive like it is now then it's a problem.

You never replied to this post nor tried to prove your point.


After this others called you out on how your views on Security are wrong and you ignored all of them.

Then it starts to come out that you are one of the players that nearly play HoP all the time and do nothing by give out all access in hopes that Security will get fucked with.

some things just really aren't worth fighting for, are they

I feel they might have been easier to fight for if you hadn't joined up as HOP every round, immediately handed out as many all-access IDs as you could, then incited revolution against sec whenever they showed up, Dan.

You went on to post your side of it but it did not really match up what they were saying and having caught you in a lie I believed them over you

I replied to your story with this.

If anything they decided to go after the source. Something I agree with. Also you've been doing this a lot from what I hear though the grapevine and at this point in regards to you I view it as griefing. Not because of my experiences with you (as I've only had one truly bad round with you) but just because it sounds like normal behavior from you. EDIT: Also I love how you were the first person to deny that this issue was even happening and then it comes to light you are one of the people who've been doing the exact thing I described to begin with.

You replied. Your last reply on the subject I should add.

the source of what exactly? this is all being construed as if i personally told each and every person to go be destructive and mortally wound a security officer

edit: my announcement merely said that security took away the all access ids i had provided. that is an objective statement of fact. nowhere did i say "security took away the all access ids. go fuck up the place!"

After this alot of people call you out including myself.

you gave them the access and the shortcut to fuck with security for no reason. You were the source and the means that they were able to do what they did. You share the blame as your action to give all access Ids was the catalyst to the events proceeding it. The HoP has the power to spread chaos by the access they give out. I've explained why the HoPs that do this share the blame in this very thread. Again your intentions are clear you deny and deny even though you do what I describe cause if any change happens it will drasically change how you play your rounds and how you screw with security. Which to me seems like you have a unreal hatred for the role.

No you did not personally tell them what to do. But you knew what they were going to do and that makes you a tad guilty in my opinion.

Following that train of thought, perhaps don't throw out a box of all-access ID's when there's two threads complaining about how HoP's make all access ID's?

Honestly that sounds completely vacant and needlessly ill-disposed, no matter what happened to you in the round. Your intent was clear.

I will jobban people from command roles if I see them engaging in grief-sec-by-proxy. Hand out most access all you want, but take the couple of seconds to remove security and ID computer from those IDs.

I am also encouraging sec to be brutal to those fuckers who can't take a hint after you throw them out once and think it's "wacky" to be the riot guy. Cut their arms off as a warning to the rest.

Brave souls who play security in these dark times, soldier on.

This will have to do until we hash out a code solution.

So all you've done is sprout bullshit that you never backup, Lie and try to discredit me and others who see this happening. You get called out and you never respond to defend yourself and then wait a few days and still say everyone is lying about it and that it's not real. For someone who's been around almost as long as me I expect so much more from you but your nothing but a shitler in my eyes now.