Ideas of questionable quality

[Retrino]

think you missed the point that it Is Antags doing this. its traitors, vamps, whoever happens to rolls antag will just speedrun a ttv because its easy as hell and impactful as hell. self defense ttv meme is rarely an actual problem. big agree with noot in just making it a traitor purchase

As far as i understoof it, it was mostly about non-antags, because they explicitely stated " regardless of antag" and "current problem of self-defense ttvs".

I got no problem of making it harder to get access to transfer valves. Like... just put them in a secured non-attack-openable RD locker (like the HOS-licker, basically), make antags work for it. but i think all antags should have access to effective explosives (no, pipebombs aren't).

not regardless of antag, regardless of antag *role*. meaning a vampire making ttvs is just as simple as a traitor making ttvs. there is an entire section on the wiki construction page purely for bombs, im sure antags will survive without their 10 minute max caps