Ideas of questionable quality

[NanoDano]

Remove base map spawn TTV frames and add them to the traitor PDA list for 2tc for scientists

Theres been a trend on main recently where nerds will ttv medbay 10 minutes in regardless of what antag role, or job role, they roll. its becoming unfunny to have 50% of the rounds have people permagibbed and no cloning 10 minutes in. Adding them back to the traitor pda will make these less common (and thus more exciting for the nerds who decide to waste their rounds in toxins) whilst also removing the current problem of self defense ttv's.

For the argument about people who just want to test bombs as nonantags, bomb sim exists.

Kinda odd that for restrictions of features is called when the permanent removsl of the players in question would be the right call for repeated self-antagging. These players will just move on to the next feature wirhout changing their behsviour.

Besides, getting hands on effective weaponry is already far too hard for non-traitor antags.

Treat the cause, not the symptom.

think you missed the point that it Is Antags doing this. its traitors, vamps, whoever happens to rolls antag will just speedrun a ttv because its easy as hell and impactful as hell. self defense ttv meme is rarely an actual problem. big agree with noot in just making it a traitor purchase

That would actually be awesome, it will stop people from making ttvs when on revs/gangs, or just when they get thralled. My only question is since it would be a tc item would it be moved to contraband? Would sec start confiscating them on sight since they are only used for bomb making?