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[CLOSED PR] Add new trigger to ion storm to scramble ID cards
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(10-16-2022, 10:08 AM)Kotlol Wrote: Against in it's current state as Ion Storms are ALREADY A HUGE HAMPER ON THE SHIFT!
Doors breaking down and shocked, AI getting new laws from not that bad to "SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING"
APC's out of order and needing engineers/sec/AI to reset and fix it.. sometimes in the dark...

It's very chaotic and if you miss a spot you can go again.. it's even more annoying if it happens twice in a row... with in between being explosives going off with breaches.
So now everyone is already fixing it or trying ot leave and an Ion storm makes the AI and borgs go crazy again and the doors and APCs are on the fritz again.

So now on top of that every ID is scrambled too, makes the HoP have too much work on his plate.

So what do I suggest insted? Add several tools to stream line this prospect.

The following devices "NEEDED" to be added before even pushing this PR foward:
- Door Breaker. A tool to break open any door in case of emergency. Be it bolted or not. (thus welding is needed to fight off this one and also ends welding wars and more) It's found only in the CE's office. (Can also be a fun item antags want to obtain over an Emag)
Item has an action bar though. But it is faster then rewelding doors and causing hacking wars. This thing alone is needed for this ID scrambling too.

- ID reset reader. A device that resets the ID to it's 1st state.
So the HoP doesn't have to be consoling all day, but can just walk around and reset the IDs to normal again. Of course blank and new cards will be worth nothing and still need to be console updated. But this will save the HoP a huuuuge headache or anyone else who wants to get it from his office.
Also now if this problem happens while the HoP , Cap and HoS are missing... the crew ain't SoL as they can just take the resetter and fix things.

And badabing badaboom we got the two new tools on top.. one that can spice up antag's way of approach and have engineering deal with "Door wars" easier.
And a device that will help against ID scrambling.

Very solid points, I was considering making this part of it's own event in the first place, but opted for ion storm because of thematics. But perhaps separating it into it's own event could be better? It would mean there's less overwhelming stuff to deal with and it gets weighed against other events, rather than being part of the event that causes problems. Only issue is, I wouldn't know what event that could be, maybe a virus that messes with data, but then how'd it get on the ID? Via PDA? I don't want to cause people to metagame an event by never slotting it into a PDA, etc.

As for the door breaker, that's a cool idea that I could see used that plays well into the "engineers need more tools to play with". I wouldn't even limit it to CE, I'd hand it out to engineers in general. Then that'd give them an additional problem to solve on the station. Alternatively, why not make crowbaring open a door be available while a door is powered, but it being an action that just takes a real long time, but you still need insulated gloves or you'll be stunned out of it?

As for the ID reset reader, this was discussed on Discord I believe, and people were of the opinion it could make HoP even more obsolete, though I like the idea in general. Maybe it could be a vendor machine similar to the ATM and costs money to use (this would require a refactor of the banking system), or takes really long, to still give people a reason to prefer HoP.

(10-16-2022, 10:16 PM)Frank_Stein Wrote: See, I think the problem is door access is too material. It effects your resources as a player. If something should get scrambled it should be more a matter of pride to have it fixed. Something like, your ID name gets scrambled up into something goofy, or your job assignment gets  modified. Dan Dingo the Security Officer becomes Danumus Bo Banamus the Head of Janitors.

Absolutely love the idea of also messing up the job assignment, should definitely add that feature. My issue is that from what I understand, this is largely an RP thing though, as on classic, people seem too focused on metagaming to care if their name is "Scrumpus Bababumpus", in fact they'd probably already be named that in the first place.

Please also note that currently, the ID mechanism is not only a matter of pride, but also material. Names are intrinsically tied to bank accounts, meaning if your name changes, unless you also change the bank account, you can't use it anymore. But we can't change bank account names, meaning you'd either be stuck called "Morg Borg" or be unable to access your bank account, not a good outcome. Currently the names are not being randomized by that anyway (though that could be a fun probability), but rather radio scrambled like the AI laws, because I wanted to remain on brand. But perhaps changing the event to be a malicious virus by some trickster as mentioned above could also allow for this to be a more feasible name change, because I absolutely think having wacky job titles like "Security of Personnel" or "Barbotanist" could add rather than subtract.

Luckily I'm planning to refactor the banking system anyway at some point, but it's still worth pointing out in it's current state.
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RE: [PR] Add new trigger to ion storm to scramble ID cards - by Glamurio - 10-17-2022, 02:05 AM

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