(05-22-2022, 08:15 AM)mralexs Wrote: Another post, by an admin, said the crew are allowed to freely kill Kudzu people. You shouldn't ahelp if you're killed as a valid target for the crew. Furthermore, I would ahelp the HoS/Sec or Cap if they're arresting you for killing the kudzu people.
There is something called the "Don't kill on 1st sight" rule. On RP it's the whole: "Antags are the spice of life, don't kill them right away"
But I call it, don't kill something cause "The rules allow it"
An admin says: "Yes it's fine to kill Kudzu people/Cluwnes"
Killing them on 1st sight (aka when they spawned or such) is a major faux pas.
As I said in another post...just cause you see someone using a Changeling/Vampire Power or Traitor item or Someone using magic, doesn't give you the right to Kill them on Sight either. There is such a thing as friendly Antagonists or Goofy ones who do non killing gimmicks.
Especially with Changelings and Vampires as they are confirmed "NON HUMANS" like monkeys.
Sure in RP you have the benefit of doubt on Classic not so much.
So killing Kudzu people just cause they are Kudzu people and the rules say it's okay. Just cause you can do it... doesn't mean you should.
Thus if captain/hos/security wants to protect it... and you ahelp it.. you look like a jerk, cause despite what you think.
Kudzu people do have benefits as well like healing people and doing botany stuff anywhere without costing power.
Cluwnes are just annoying, but again they aren't a threat.
Also Cal thanks for the article.
So players becoming monkeys are technically also "free to kill" acording to the rules since they ain't human.
I also notice the lack of FROG PEOPLE. Unless frogs are frog people and normal frogs fall under critter criteria.
(INFACT IF YOU READ THE RULES OF THE ARTICLE IT SAYS KILLING THEM CAUSE THEY ARE NON HUMAN CAN BE CONSIDERED GRIEF!) <--Big edit
Essentially put Kudzu People/Cluwnes are the "Grey zone" but in my opinion... Killing a player cause they are something non human is kinda stupid and just an excuse to murderbone.... so if you see a Kudzu person, ask command, if command gives the kill command you can.
Same as growing weed, since technically weed is contraband and security may come down on your ass for it, yet almost every shift someone grows weed and security ignores it. So yea... don't use technicallities to attack and ruin other player's fun.
When it should be fine to kill a kudzu/cluwne is when you see them harming someone or doing something against the "command rules" or "harming someone thats not self defense" So yes... if you suspect they are up to no good, killing them is 100% fine in my book then. Since that's the risk of playing those things.
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