Goonhub
05-16-2022, 09:52 PM
Admin: CaptainBravo
Server: Goon1, main
Date + time: 2022-05-17 11:35PM EST
Synopsis/Explaination:
I called a shuttle vote and 30, and due to more y than n, I called shuttle, then I'm suddenly dead. I was confused and sent an ahelp, and I find out that they killed me for "early shuttle call". They claimed early shuttles were petty and annoying, and dismissed anything I explained or argued with "didn't ask", utterly shutting down my attempt at a conversation over what felt like one sided punishment by an admin for something that I've never seen rules or admins claim was a problem before.
I can't find any rules related to this on the list, and was very confused the entire discussion because I've never seen it be an issue or seen someone be warned regardless of how early the call was. I literally don't know what constitutes early, because SS13 has uniquely long gameplay. It's easy to say '30 is early', but I don't know if 40 is, or what's late when a round could last a full 90, and being precise is important when I can be punished for it. I was cloned by somebody after a few minutes, as I had been scanned earlier, but I just kept talking to an admin than hid myself as all my gear was deleted, so I was done with the round.
This ultimately makes my complaint two issues, both that I felt it unfair for an admin to punish me by killing me with no warning, receiving no explanation before I even ahelped for something that lacked precedent or written rules. They weren't precise on what they were instructing me, just telling me "don't early call", which doesn't explain enough when the risk of doing so means I could be deleted out of the round or banned from the game. Second was that the admin was felt extremely disrespectful, disregarding my attempts at understanding this and repeatedly saying "didn't ask" every time I tried to figure out why this situation was different. I felt like I tried to discuss this in good faith, and got a slap in the face with the replies and a threaten of a ban.
Logs:
The vote, and I've attached a photo of the full conversation over maybe 10ish minutes, missing one comment from when I copy pasted it. I saved it worrying that I might be banned for trying to discuss it, because as mentioned, they threatened to ban me when I said it felt unfair. Also, not sure how to spoiler, I can't find a button or instructions.
Server: Goon1, main
Date + time: 2022-05-17 11:35PM EST
Synopsis/Explaination:
I called a shuttle vote and 30, and due to more y than n, I called shuttle, then I'm suddenly dead. I was confused and sent an ahelp, and I find out that they killed me for "early shuttle call". They claimed early shuttles were petty and annoying, and dismissed anything I explained or argued with "didn't ask", utterly shutting down my attempt at a conversation over what felt like one sided punishment by an admin for something that I've never seen rules or admins claim was a problem before.
I can't find any rules related to this on the list, and was very confused the entire discussion because I've never seen it be an issue or seen someone be warned regardless of how early the call was. I literally don't know what constitutes early, because SS13 has uniquely long gameplay. It's easy to say '30 is early', but I don't know if 40 is, or what's late when a round could last a full 90, and being precise is important when I can be punished for it. I was cloned by somebody after a few minutes, as I had been scanned earlier, but I just kept talking to an admin than hid myself as all my gear was deleted, so I was done with the round.
This ultimately makes my complaint two issues, both that I felt it unfair for an admin to punish me by killing me with no warning, receiving no explanation before I even ahelped for something that lacked precedent or written rules. They weren't precise on what they were instructing me, just telling me "don't early call", which doesn't explain enough when the risk of doing so means I could be deleted out of the round or banned from the game. Second was that the admin was felt extremely disrespectful, disregarding my attempts at understanding this and repeatedly saying "didn't ask" every time I tried to figure out why this situation was different. I felt like I tried to discuss this in good faith, and got a slap in the face with the replies and a threaten of a ban.
Logs:
The vote, and I've attached a photo of the full conversation over maybe 10ish minutes, missing one comment from when I copy pasted it. I saved it worrying that I might be banned for trying to discuss it, because as mentioned, they threatened to ban me when I said it felt unfair. Also, not sure how to spoiler, I can't find a button or instructions.