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Pirate Market
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(12-30-2021, 02:32 PM)Deadvickyart Wrote: Also CARL has never been traitor only, agent cards are avaliable elsewhere and the phase walk gene can get you through. Historically it's been open to other things like RCD use too.

Are you familiar with this change?
https://github.com/goonstation/goonstation/pull/5299

(12-30-2021, 02:32 PM)Deadvickyart Wrote: That's how secrets work on goonstation. People work out how a system works, they work out how to do it very quickly and do it over and over again over the course of the next couple of weeks, and they experiment with them. Most of the time this doesn't cause any problems. Look at people learning how to do the ice moon or something for example, you see people approach the feature out of curiousity, get hooked, and spend a lot of shifts in a row trying to uncover exactly how the feature works, then they work it out and play with the rewards for a couple weeks. You're only noticing the occasional bad player who abuses it.

If people are handling contraband constantly and causing trouble round after round, that's either an in-character issue for security to deal with (take their shit and throw them in the brig). If they step over the line and break server rules or make a habit of murdering people it's an issue for the admins. Ahelp is always avaliable and most ahelps result in the player improving their behaviour after a light warning, it's not just for requesting bans.

While historically the view was usually to just deal with individual feature-overusers/exploiters individually, over the last year or so, developmental priority has largely changed to tackling the sources of the problems instead. While this sort of perspective is what used to be what was enacted, I don't think it's applied nearly as much these days.

I know I'm not an admin, and you don't really want to engage with the issue outside of an admin popping in, but it's a pretty pivotal aspect of the concept IMO, and a decent number of those replying are people I've seen pretty active in discussion spaces - including where admins talk about how balance-related things are handled. Wanting to expand the economy features is a really good goal, but this is a pretty huge step if it would occur, so it's understandable people would be concerned about its negative effects.


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Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-19-2021, 06:01 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Drewmajor11 - 12-19-2021, 06:34 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 12-19-2021, 06:38 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-19-2021, 07:10 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DimWhat - 12-19-2021, 07:27 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Nidabutt - 12-20-2021, 01:41 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Danger Noodle - 12-20-2021, 02:24 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 12-20-2021, 05:20 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by cyberTripping - 12-20-2021, 05:50 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-20-2021, 11:14 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Nidabutt - 12-20-2021, 03:49 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-21-2021, 12:34 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Drewmajor11 - 12-20-2021, 06:17 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Danger Noodle - 12-21-2021, 12:57 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-21-2021, 02:29 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by TDHooligan - 12-23-2021, 06:23 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 05:46 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 07:43 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by mralexs - 12-29-2021, 08:21 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 12-29-2021, 08:40 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 09:24 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 12-29-2021, 09:41 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 09:43 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 12-29-2021, 09:46 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 09:58 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 12-29-2021, 08:35 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 08:43 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 12-29-2021, 08:49 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by mralexs - 12-29-2021, 10:23 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 12-29-2021, 11:21 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-29-2021, 11:54 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 12-30-2021, 12:40 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-30-2021, 02:46 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 12-30-2021, 05:51 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-30-2021, 06:52 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Mouse - 12-30-2021, 07:45 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-30-2021, 02:32 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by cyberTripping - 12-30-2021, 03:48 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-30-2021, 05:09 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 12-30-2021, 11:24 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by saccharineChampion - 12-30-2021, 03:44 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-31-2021, 09:27 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 12-31-2021, 10:36 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-01-2022, 01:45 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-01-2022, 02:10 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-01-2022, 04:42 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-01-2022, 11:25 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 04:35 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-02-2022, 09:47 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-02-2022, 10:18 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 04:50 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-02-2022, 06:20 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 07:29 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-02-2022, 08:08 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 08:31 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DimWhat - 01-02-2022, 08:38 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 08:45 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 01-02-2022, 08:46 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 08:55 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DimWhat - 01-02-2022, 08:55 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-02-2022, 09:00 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 01-03-2022, 12:53 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-03-2022, 06:53 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-03-2022, 10:08 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Frank_Stein - 01-03-2022, 03:09 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-03-2022, 07:45 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-03-2022, 08:45 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-03-2022, 09:27 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-03-2022, 11:09 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-07-2022, 06:25 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Waffleloffle - 01-07-2022, 12:13 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-07-2022, 11:46 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-08-2022, 12:32 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Mrprogamer96 - 01-08-2022, 01:34 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-08-2022, 02:30 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-08-2022, 09:04 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-08-2022, 05:34 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-08-2022, 10:55 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Ikea - 01-08-2022, 05:34 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 01-08-2022, 11:08 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-08-2022, 11:32 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by According_tome - 01-08-2022, 01:25 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-09-2022, 01:31 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by mralexs - 01-09-2022, 05:35 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-09-2022, 07:55 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-09-2022, 08:37 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Zonespace - 01-09-2022, 09:50 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-10-2022, 04:24 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by DioChasek - 01-09-2022, 11:18 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Cal - 01-10-2022, 06:47 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Mouse - 01-10-2022, 07:05 AM
RE: Pirate Market - by Deadvickyart - 01-10-2022, 03:12 PM
RE: Pirate Market - by Sord213 - 01-10-2022, 04:08 PM

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