Mindslave implants need an overhaul

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There are players that are such a huge threat when you are an antag - that even trying to pull any sort of gimmick will get you eliminated in a heartbeat.

Mindslaving those to play along or just not worry about being a target for well known validhunters - well - that is what the mindslave implant is for.

The change to require combat? Nah.
It defeats the whole purpose of it being sneaky.

If the same few people get mindslaved again and again - well - I bet those are the people I have in mind that always carry a plate, manage to pull it out in 0.1 seconds; smack it over ya'head and wear SecHUDs in addition to that.

I am completely against any change to mindslave implants. The latest nerf was to be unable to easily convert the HoS. Fine.
Now a change to make it difficult to convert anyone without risking security ambushing you or the powergaming validhunters being informed over radio once you initiate the combat that requires mindslaving with the proposed change?

Why should I mindslave somebody that called me out ten seconds prior? Not like those same nerds couldn't link evidence A and B to forge conclusion C - eh?

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it's actually so that the same 3 players can have a normal round without being mindslaved instantly because everyone knows they're robust.

it's the meta, but it's not fun to *be* the meta when the meta is to mindslave you.

you call it a playing field leveller, but when everyone has the same plan it leads to high intensity burnout for everyone involved

They made that bed, they can lie in it IMO.

They made that bed, they can lie in it IMO.

What, for being robust?

Being targeted for mindslaves is a direct and completely forseeable consequence of a certain playstyle shared by the people who keep getting targeted.  If you want to powergame 24/7 go ahead, but don't whine when people consider you a prime mindslave target.

Being robust is not 1:1 with powergaming.  The entire problem this thread is addressing is, in fact, that robust-but-not-powergamers are being forced into powergaming by powergamers (who usually aren't robust themselves).

A powergamer who is not robust is simply not a powergamer - cause where is the power in the gaming?

Anyhow - if you play long enough to have your name shake up the nerve connections inside an antags head with violent fear - then expect being turned.

Or how about you stay at least one tile away from everybody and act like it is a changeling round?
Be paranoid.
Be aware.
Walk in groups.
Communicate with others.

This is a social game.