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Chemistry nerfs
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(03-08-2021, 10:41 AM)Azrun Wrote: To echo Carbadox’s point:
Individuals find a way to wreak havoc on the station.  One person’s enjoying high! Crew’s enjoyment is low.  As long as there is sufficient counter-play available to the crew and/or the efforts of the individual is sufficient then there is a sense of balance.  Right now the option seems to play wack-a-mole on certain reactions/mixes or let chemistry ruin everyone day.  Thus the changes.

Power gaming is typically fun for the power gamer at everyone else's expense.

(03-06-2021, 03:17 PM)warcrimes Wrote: chem groups? a mistake.

Honestly I think this is the most interesting point brought up thus far.  In an imaginary world where you could only create chem groups for reactions you have discovered the feature seems like a wonderful quality of life add.  You put in the time (over multiple rounds) and are rewarded!  Back in reality you can just copypasta something from Discord or Reddit and now you can be a medical genius and/or a murder machine.

Add some cost to using chemgroups, because that seems like what everyone is actually pointing to.  Make it an "action bar" (of the dispenser).  Have the duration scale with the number of reagents in the group, have additional penalties if it is over certain amounts, increase duration if it detects a reaction has occurred (“dispenser failsafe”), random chance chemgroup aborts, random chance an amount is incorrect, random chance reagent is skipped, chance chemgroup feature breaks and requires repair.  Have it reject certain combinations of reagents as known explosives in order “to protect Nanotrasen property” (possibly have it notify Sec),  then add modules/mechanism to circumvent that.
 As a big chem nerd i don't see the point of nerfing chem groups while it could stop joe smoe from copy pasting the latest station melter 3000 in any one whos put in even a small amount of work into chem can be faster and more precise then chem groups. As well as I think there would be massive backlash from the people who use chem groups as med to make stypic and the like to have random rng go ohhhhh noooo your chem group randomly added 20u instead of 10u for no reason. Adding random rng or just nerfing chem groups so hard that they would be used as much as the chem compiler doesn't feel like a fix more of just get rid of it so the problem might stop.
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Chemistry nerfs - by McDougie - 03-04-2021, 10:07 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Mouse - 03-04-2021, 10:58 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by McDougie - 03-04-2021, 11:12 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Caro - 03-04-2021, 11:27 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by McDougie - 03-04-2021, 11:38 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Mouse - 03-04-2021, 12:15 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Drago156 - 03-04-2021, 01:01 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Lady Birb - 03-04-2021, 01:14 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by McDougie - 03-04-2021, 04:32 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Carbadox - 03-05-2021, 12:45 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by warcrimes - 03-06-2021, 03:17 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Azrun - 03-08-2021, 10:41 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by rando212 - 03-08-2021, 02:00 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by warcrimes - 03-09-2021, 06:03 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Frank_Stein - 03-09-2021, 06:48 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Cal - 03-09-2021, 06:29 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by aft2001 - 03-10-2021, 09:51 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Froggit_Dogget - 03-10-2021, 10:56 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Boxta - 03-10-2021, 08:32 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by nefarious6th - 03-10-2021, 08:59 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by aft2001 - 03-11-2021, 05:22 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Azrun - 03-02-2022, 01:21 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by TDHooligan - 03-05-2022, 01:26 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Froggit_Dogget - 03-02-2022, 02:02 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by stagda - 03-02-2022, 02:58 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by McDougie - 03-03-2022, 06:04 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Frank_Stein - 03-05-2022, 12:21 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Mouse - 03-03-2022, 06:17 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Rmeaper - 03-04-2022, 07:25 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by MetricDuck - 03-05-2022, 02:55 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by MetricDuck - 03-05-2022, 04:01 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Cal - 03-05-2022, 07:54 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Washbasin - 09-03-2022, 08:39 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by amylizzle - 08-31-2022, 07:11 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by LeahTheTech - 09-01-2022, 02:54 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Lord_earthfire - 08-31-2022, 10:24 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by mralexs - 08-31-2022, 12:39 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Dandiiion - 09-01-2022, 02:56 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by LeahTheTech - 09-01-2022, 03:02 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by tamakona - 09-01-2022, 07:24 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Nerkson - 09-01-2022, 03:52 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by DioChasek - 09-01-2022, 06:55 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by TwoBraids - 09-01-2022, 11:57 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Kotlol - 09-03-2022, 05:05 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by DioChasek - 09-04-2022, 06:15 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Kotlol - 09-04-2022, 07:50 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by DioChasek - 09-04-2022, 11:51 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Washbasin - 09-08-2022, 06:09 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by DioChasek - 09-08-2022, 07:44 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Kotlol - 09-09-2022, 03:04 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Drewmajor11 - 09-09-2022, 06:39 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Lord_earthfire - 09-12-2022, 12:32 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Kotlol - 09-12-2022, 04:39 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Lord_earthfire - 09-12-2022, 05:00 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Kotlol - 09-12-2022, 07:58 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by DioChasek - 09-12-2022, 10:24 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Kotlol - 09-12-2022, 02:10 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by DioChasek - 09-12-2022, 03:01 PM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Kotlol - 09-13-2022, 03:13 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by Lord_earthfire - 09-13-2022, 01:13 AM
RE: Chemistry nerfs - by A4Brogan - 09-15-2022, 06:12 AM

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