Goonhub
09-28-2020, 07:02 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-28-2020, 07:26 AM by Drago156. Edited 2 times in total.)
I absolutely disagree, as it stands now I believe nukies are incredibly powerful, a bit too powerful, in comparison to the overall station, partly from a decrease in overall station armaments and in an increase in the amount and power of nukie gear. I will say that I am very happy and very much in support of the grenade launcher getting nerfed because that thing was absolutely broken, but I also think the LMG should be nerfed as well, because currently, and especially now that the grenade launcher is nerfed, it stands as possibly the most powerful nukie gun, able to drop an unarmored opponent to negative 830~ health before the person has a chance to die or to account for bleed, shrapnel, or organ damage in anyway. I would say decreasing or limiting the LMG's overall rate of fire or dropping each bullet's damage by a point or a few could fix this and make it overall more balanced.
Organ damage is something that you absolutely have to account for now in combat, and is a very serious factor for one's health now. Organ damage is very slow and can be difficult to heal, and getting hit a good few times by just about any nukie weapon, despite wearing armor or not, can completely shred the health of your organs and leave you dying or dead despite a lower overall and initial health loss.
It's also to important to consider that any losses or flukies you may see isn't necessarily representative of any other given nukie round, because the robustness of the crew and of the nukie team changes each and every round, as well as the circumstances. Nukie gear is also incredibly easy to use, there are few caveats to being a nukie and using your equipment aside from an RPG, sarin nades, or firebrands, and often times someone will yell about any other person taking the first two. Often times I hear about nukies losing more than winning, and often I hear that the cause is that the given nukie squad was comprised almost entirely of new players. I would guess from my own experiences in witnessing teams of at least semi-robust nukie members, that any half decent team could actually quite easily beat the station, and due to a lack of overall station armaments or security personnel, there wouldn't be many people who could actually do anything against the nukies.
Finally, one last thing to consider is that the nukies often times don't really have to do much. In most cases the nukie team breaches directly to the plant site, throws a few tables around the nuke, and plants it and just sits in one spot for 10 minutes, able to just gun down anyone at range and have almost zero concern about anyone not wielding a gun, and even those wielding weapons aren't very much of a threat unless it's something incredibly broken or powerful, due to the nukie armor negating a lot of the damage. It also doesn't help that a nukie can take any single group of crewmembers and just suicide to effectively disable or kill most of the people of that group, who can then be very easily picked off by another nukie.
Tl;dr: Nukies is still very imbalanced, with a lot of the power weighing on the side of the nukies, and that fluke rounds can mostly be caused from almost an entire team of new players.
Organ damage is something that you absolutely have to account for now in combat, and is a very serious factor for one's health now. Organ damage is very slow and can be difficult to heal, and getting hit a good few times by just about any nukie weapon, despite wearing armor or not, can completely shred the health of your organs and leave you dying or dead despite a lower overall and initial health loss.
It's also to important to consider that any losses or flukies you may see isn't necessarily representative of any other given nukie round, because the robustness of the crew and of the nukie team changes each and every round, as well as the circumstances. Nukie gear is also incredibly easy to use, there are few caveats to being a nukie and using your equipment aside from an RPG, sarin nades, or firebrands, and often times someone will yell about any other person taking the first two. Often times I hear about nukies losing more than winning, and often I hear that the cause is that the given nukie squad was comprised almost entirely of new players. I would guess from my own experiences in witnessing teams of at least semi-robust nukie members, that any half decent team could actually quite easily beat the station, and due to a lack of overall station armaments or security personnel, there wouldn't be many people who could actually do anything against the nukies.
Finally, one last thing to consider is that the nukies often times don't really have to do much. In most cases the nukie team breaches directly to the plant site, throws a few tables around the nuke, and plants it and just sits in one spot for 10 minutes, able to just gun down anyone at range and have almost zero concern about anyone not wielding a gun, and even those wielding weapons aren't very much of a threat unless it's something incredibly broken or powerful, due to the nukie armor negating a lot of the damage. It also doesn't help that a nukie can take any single group of crewmembers and just suicide to effectively disable or kill most of the people of that group, who can then be very easily picked off by another nukie.
Tl;dr: Nukies is still very imbalanced, with a lot of the power weighing on the side of the nukies, and that fluke rounds can mostly be caused from almost an entire team of new players.