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Alter plasma-trapped pod mechanics
#1
I'm really open for suggestions as to how, but frankly I'm pretty sick of their current mechanics.

As near as I can tell, they rack up a tremendous, insane amount of tox damage+oxy damage(+heart failure?) immediately if there's plasma in the oxygen slot. Internals don't block this, and it's a kill after about five~ seconds, during which you have losebreath and can't talk.

Not only is this completely different from plasma's mechanics(even pure plasma in an internals tank does far less damage) everywhere else, it also happens to be really damned annoying and an insanely powerful trap for something that takes a crowbar and no extra materials, and the only way to check before getting into your pod is to tediously open it up with a crowbar or lock it.

Considering you can just swim in the stuff normally, a simple fix would just be to have internals block this.
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#2
I agree.
I was the asshole who trapped all of the pods. It's OP as shit. I think making suits protect against any burn and internals protecting against Tox and Oxy. I don't know though I'm no plasma researcher.
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#3
I could've sworn that active internals prevented you from falling prey to this. If they don't, that definitely needs to be fixed.
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#4
I've literally never had this happen to me so if you are clever enough to actually set and execute this trap it should work really effectively, I dunno about the plasma going past internals though.
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#5
Only plasma going past internals should be fixed
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#6
This has been brought up before: when you're gallivanting about in "pure" plasma in the station, it's a dilute mix of plasma and air, not pure plasma. However if internals tanks full of plasma don't kill you just as dead than pods then yeah something's up. Possibly your breathing pressure for being in a pod is higher than your threshold would be for internals, especially if it's a compromised oxytank instead of a compromised airtank.
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#7
It's less about whether or not this make logical sense and more about whether or not this makes gameplay sense.

From my seat, it depends on how often it's used. If you have to check your pod every time, then it's too much. Same thing with mousetrap pipebombs. I don't think things have gotten to that level yet, but it's not a bad thing to bring up.
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#8
The plasma bypassing internals definitely sounds like a bug, I could have sworn they didn't before. If they do now, then it should probably be fixed.
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#9
Agreed - the plasma should have been dealt with by internals.
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#10
(03-28-2017, 02:07 PM)SageAcrin Wrote: Not only is this completely different from plasma's mechanics(even pure plasma in an internals tank does far less damage) everywhere else

Just tested internals with a plasma filled oxygen tank set to the max pressure (300) and it did cause me to go into crit almost instantaneously, and then set to 17 which did very little tox damage in comparison. However this is still odd behaviour, it's not possible, for instance, to fix suffocation damage quickly with an oxygen tank set to max pressure, so it's reasonable to assume the reverse should be the same with plasma and tox damage.
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#11
(03-29-2017, 03:33 AM)Dr Zoidcrab Wrote:
(03-28-2017, 02:07 PM)SageAcrin Wrote: Not only is this completely different from plasma's mechanics(even pure plasma in an internals tank does far less damage) everywhere else

Just tested internals with a plasma filled oxygen tank set to the max pressure (300) and it did cause me to go into crit almost instantaneously, and then set to 17 which did very little tox damage in comparison. However this is still odd behaviour, it's not possible, for instance, to fix suffocation damage quickly with an oxygen tank set to max pressure, so it's reasonable to assume the reverse should be the same with plasma and tox damage.

What you're doing there is effectively forcing large amounts of plasma into your system under artificially high pressure in a very short amount of time.

Of course the plasma will do shitloads of toxin damage.
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#12
(03-29-2017, 06:36 AM)Noah Buttes Wrote: What you're doing there is effectively forcing large amounts of plasma into your system under artificially high pressure in a very short amount of time.

Of course the plasma will do shitloads of toxin damage.

Then you'd be dying from your lungs bursting not toxin damage
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(03-29-2017, 10:53 AM)Dr Zoidcrab Wrote:
(03-29-2017, 06:36 AM)Noah Buttes Wrote: What you're doing there is effectively forcing large amounts of plasma into your system under artificially high pressure in a very short amount of time.

Of course the plasma will do shitloads of toxin damage.

Then you'd be dying from your lungs bursting not toxin damage

Why not both?
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#14
The only thing I see about it almost instantly killing you is that the engine is constantly turned on, and the air is constantly being supplied with lethal plasma. Once you open it and get in, you breath in and due to the how much plasma there is you are generally forced to inhale more than normal, and you take lots of plasma damage.
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