Changeling's Neurotox Is Now Lethal?

[Embolism]

I was stung by a Changeling a round ago and apparently it contains somnambutril (or whatever its new equivalent is) and chemicals that quickly kill you. Is this an intended change or a side effect of the revamped chemistry system?

[PlainInsane]

Are you sure it was a changeling and not a sleepy pen? They start out with sonambutril.

[Cogwerks]

There's no somnabutril in changeling stings. Changeling stings are neurotoxin, toxin, stoxin and atropine. They'll fuck you up pretty hard but the atropine will maintain some of your health.

The only change was swapping impedrezene (haloperidol) for neurotoxin, which probably ought to be in a sting called neurotoxin sting!

You might have experienced a certain drug interaction though. Medics beware.

[Daeren]

Last night I was a vampire who got stung and the only thing keeping the toxin from poisoning the everlasting Bejesus out of me while I was out cold for a solid 5+ BYOND minutes was mashing Rejuvenate while hidden with Cloak of Darkness in a corridor I mist-formed into just before keeling over, which healed me but failed to actually wake me up. I don't know if the sting's actually that much more potent now or not, but it sure as hell feels much nastier than it used to. It was a great way to scramble movements and keep dudes down and quiet after a spit so you could drag them and choke them, but I don't remember it rivaling a sleepy-pen dose.

[Embolism]

Yes, I am pretty sure it was a changeling given that it happened while I was fighting one. After stinging me it ran off into space with a victim while I was stumbling around (which I assumed was from neurotoxin or maybe the replacement for cryptobiolin) and yawning, then fell asleep and continued taking damage, never to wake up again.

After that I saw the Changeling sting more people and the ones that were not immediately absorbed all started yawning and eventually fell down and snored. None of them ever woke up again.

Plus at the end of the round there was just one changeling, no traitors.

I'm pretty sure the yawning, falling down and snoring forever is characteristic for somnambutril? And I'm pretty sure I had no drugs and me and it happened to everyone who was stung (and not immediately absorbed), so I find it unlikely it is a drug reaction unless it is a reaction between the chemicals in the sting.

[Embolism]

And I just saw that Cogwerks mentioned sleep toxin. I wasn't aware that was even still in, given that sedatives were removed from medilockers.

If it's like the old sleep toxin though, I don't think that produces yawning (and maybe snoring)? Yawning used to only happen with somnambutril I'm pretty sure?

[atomic1fire]

Sleep toxin was replaced with morphine.

[APARTHEID]

The spit is far less powerful than before, but the sting is putting people to -100 brain damage that fast?

[Cogwerks]

Nothing changed with the spit...

[Klayboxx]

Nothing changed with the spit...

Well I don't remember taking significant damage from it before, but last time I got stung I went into orange pretty rapidly and then went into crit soon after, and after I'd been treated with the equivalent to anti-tox I still dipped down into orange again before healing back up.

[Embolism]

Well I don't remember taking significant damage from it before, but last time I got stung I went into orange pretty rapidly and then went into crit soon after, and after I'd been treated with the equivalent to anti-tox I still dipped down into orange again before healing back up.

This. It's definitely much deadlier than it was before, as I said it killed me pretty quickly and I had no drugs in me to cause a reaction or anything.

[MaRcuSTheDAWG]

Seems legit

[BlackPhoenix]

Seems legit

This comment helps nobody.

From what I remember, changeling spit always did some serious damage. I've spent a lot of time being spat on by changelings...

[Embolism]

Not spit, sting. And I don't remember toxic spit ever doing much damage at all.

[Cogwerks]

It's the atropine in the sting doing most of the damage, but that kinda locks you into a slow and mostly stable crit. You should be able to get to medbay if you wake up. I could just make neurotoxin handle the dizziness though.