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The /tg/ branch has VOX for AI's, I think the word limit is 30 something and abusing it gets you a job ban. Other than that no words are restricted. If it's added just handle it on a case by case basis like everything else. If some nerd is being annoying then jobban him from AI, if it's funny and appropriate allow it. No need to limit it with vocabulary, just count.
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Ali0en Wrote:The /tg/ branch has VOX for AI's, I think the word limit is 30 something and abusing it gets you a job ban. Other than that no words are restricted. If it's added just handle it on a case by case basis like everything else. If some nerd is being annoying then jobban him from AI, if it's funny and appropriate allow it. No need to limit it with vocabulary, just count.
This makes sense. You CAN go and murder everyone as a non antag. Though ban will happen. You COULD spam vox, but it'll earn you a job-ban. Just put a note next to the vox button saying you could get job-banned for spamming?
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salix_catus Wrote:Ali0en Wrote:The /tg/ branch has VOX for AI's, I think the word limit is 30 something and abusing it gets you a job ban. Other than that no words are restricted. If it's added just handle it on a case by case basis like everything else. If some nerd is being annoying then jobban him from AI, if it's funny and appropriate allow it. No need to limit it with vocabulary, just count.
This makes sense. You CAN go and murder everyone as a non antag. Though ban will happen. You COULD spam vox, but it'll earn you a job-ban. Just put a note next to the vox button saying you could get job-banned for spamming?
would need to clarify that using the vox alot for legitimate reasons is not spamming in the rules though. I would hate to get job-banned for using the vox to talk to the crew.
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Dr_Bee Wrote:would need to clarify that using the vox alot for legitimate reasons is not spamming in the rules though. I would hate to get job-banned for using the vox to talk to the crew.
I'm convinced the admins and vast majority of players are smart enough to know the difference between an AI communicating with the Vox and an AI being an absolute fucknugget spamming "WOOP WOOP ASS DAY WOOP WOOP" or "BIRDWELL BIRDWELL BIRDWELL BIRDWELL" over 200 times*.
*Am I right, SpyGuy?
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We managed to get back the clown without being terrible about it. Maybe we can manage VOX too, with a few restrictions.
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I'd rather we limit the stuff we have to watch over.
And if it does come back, I'd want it to be off by default and enabled by the crew. Possibly something to give to the roboticists.
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I think job bans are the best way to deal with an AI that abuses vox.
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Berrik Wrote:I think job bans are the best way to deal with an AI that abuses vox.
Aye, bad AIs already get jobbanned for doing dumb stuff and not following their laws anyway.
With all of these ways to keep the spam to a minimum, I'd say we'd have nothing to -really- lose by giving the Vox back to the AI.
Just put it under trial for a couple of weeks to see how it goes.
I mean, the return of the clown was a similar experiment that went just fine.
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As all the other 'trial' examples, we had a fucking nuke on-station that only took a bit of DWAINE/HoP/Murder fuckery to set off any round.
Sure, it got removed, but so did the people that abused it. VOX is worth a shot too.
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As a somewhat frequent AI player I'd love to be able to have Vox access. I feel that it'd be a good way to get people's attention when something urgent is going down. That said, I could totally see some idiots just using it to fuck around in unfunny ways. I think I most like the idea of letting the roboticists be able to turn it on/off.
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I'm going to bump this thread because the recent addition of a bunch of new words to the Vox makes me incredibly sad that only those PESKY admins can use them.
If anything, giving the AI access to the Vox will make it a much more enjoyable role because, let's face it, it's just a glorified doorknob most of the time.
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Here's an other idea:
If you're afraid that random idiots will pick AI -only- to spam the Vox, you could make the Vox usable only by players that have been regularily playing for a month or something. I don't know.
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I find it weird that people think the AI spamming vox would be a bigger issue than an AI shocking doors with the base 3.
We don't have super giant security features for the second one, it's simply "Don't do it or you will be ahelped and banned". I have no idea why this can't follow the same rules as that.
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I've lived through enough admin fuck-ups concerning VOX use to completely advocate its public use.