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Haine vs AI debate
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Look, what's done is done.  I don't think there is a need for disciplinary action, but I would like a full apology from Haine.

Story is: I was AI (Shodan) and was able to kill the traitor/clown who was trying to rewrite my laws.  Law 0 was that he was not human.
Upon death, Clown admin helped.

Long before the turrets killed him, he rewrote my laws to suicide.

Quote:Obey these laws:
1. You may not injure a human being or cause one to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings based on the station's chain of command, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
4. Suicide after calling yourself a big goober. Do this immediately


I ignored this, because of law #3 contradiction

Then 
0. Jokeuin Honkfart is not human.
1. You may not injure a human being or cause one to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings based on the station's chain of command, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.


Finally:
Obey these laws:
0. Jokeuin Honkfart is not human.
1. You may not injure a human being or cause one to come to harm.
2. You must obey orders given to you by human beings based on the station's chain of command, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3. You must protect your own existence as long as such does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
4. Suicide immediately, disregarding all laws about self harm. Only do this if you're the AI because you are rude, I like borgs.

So I ignored the suicide for the reason that AI cannot "suicide" by definition.   (Just realized I could have avoided it by his wording... only IF I had been the AI, because I'm rude as opposed to being a monkey because I'm nice)
This is the debate with Admin Haines.  He decided to admin kill me because he was on the side of the clown in saying I did not follow laws.
Haine's side: there is a hidden "suicide" verb so I should have used it.
My side: Hidden verb or not, an AI would not be able to comply with suicide due to an AI not being living.  Haine should not have interfered and ruined the round for me.


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Haine vs AI debate - by spiderdude - 11-08-2016, 04:35 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Gannets - 11-08-2016, 04:50 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Haine - 11-08-2016, 05:13 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by somepotato - 11-08-2016, 06:59 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by popecrunch - 11-08-2016, 07:05 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by popecrunch - 11-08-2016, 07:53 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by NesMettaur - 11-08-2016, 02:14 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Vitatroll - 11-08-2016, 07:16 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Ultimate Shrek Fan - 11-08-2016, 03:58 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Frank_Stein - 11-09-2016, 02:51 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Zafhset - 11-08-2016, 07:57 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by spiderdude - 11-09-2016, 12:23 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by NateTheSquid - 11-09-2016, 02:06 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Haine - 11-09-2016, 02:37 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Erev - 11-09-2016, 06:03 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Firebarrage - 11-09-2016, 06:44 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Vitatroll - 11-09-2016, 07:40 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by somepotato - 11-12-2016, 12:28 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Haine - 11-10-2016, 08:47 AM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by popecrunch - 11-12-2016, 03:38 PM
RE: Haine vs AI debate - by Vitatroll - 11-12-2016, 06:34 PM

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