Goonhub
03-11-2025, 08:57 AM
The escalation rule reads:
This can be tricky to apply to stealth gameplay, but let's look at some examples. You mention removing sleepy pens since they are impossible to use within the rules, so -
Example 1: You fill your sleepy pen with poison, lurk around the cafeteria and inject people after they eat something. Then you blame the chef for all the poisonings and try to get the kitchen shut down as a public health hazard.
You're not talking to your victims here, there's no sense of dread, BUT there is an obvious motive (framing the chef) and you are increasing roleplay opportunities by starting an entire conversation about whether their food is poisoned, maybe even getting people to protest and calling for the chef to be arrested.
Verdict: PASS
Example 2 (I did this one): You're a medical doctor, fill your sleep pen with a cocktail of illegal drugs and stab the captain with it. Then, when they come into medbay complaining that they feel ill, you tut at them for getting high on duty. Do this a few more times while the captain is getting increasingly desperate to convince people they aren't taking drugs on the job, then try to convince the HoP to relieve them of their command due to their drug problem.
Again, you have a motive before you harm them and you're using the poisoning to try to make something happen in the round.
Verdict: PASS
Example 3: You walk into botany and start talking to a botanist about plant food, during the conversation you inject them with poison, watch them collapse, go "huh" and then walk out again.
You're talking to them, you're roleplaying with them, BUT you're not giving them a sense of dread, an obvious motive, or any means of reacting. You're also decreasing roleplay opportunities by taking them out of the round temporarily for no tangible payoff.
Verdict: FAIL
This is how I interpret the escalation rule, and as far as I'm aware how every current admin does.
The reason I said "silently" in your case is because the effect is the same as if you hadn't been talking to people, it doesn't change how the escalation rule applies because you're still not fulfilling any of the listed conditions. I know you weren't actually being silent and I'm sorry if you thought I was insulting you by saying so, or that it indicated I hadn't read the logs and was simply giving a knee-jerk reaction based on complaints. That was not my intention and that's not what I do.
I reacted sharply when you brought up being a former admin because to me it seems irrelevant and I can't think of a reason to bring it up other than favouritism or accusing me of being overly harsh on you. Quite honestly I don't really know who you are, I wasn't on the team when you left and the only interactions I've had with you are chatting about things in deadchat. I left you a notice because in my judgement you were (mildly) breaking the rules and that is how we inform people of that.
*breathout
-Leah
Quote:Escalate through roleplay before attacking other players. The goal of the roleplay server is character interaction and interesting scenarios. Both crew and antagonists are expected to roleplay escalation before engaging in hostilities. As an antagonist, your goal is to increase, not decrease, roleplay opportunities. Give people a sense of dread, an obvious motive, or some means of roleplaying and reacting, before you harm them.
This can be tricky to apply to stealth gameplay, but let's look at some examples. You mention removing sleepy pens since they are impossible to use within the rules, so -
Example 1: You fill your sleepy pen with poison, lurk around the cafeteria and inject people after they eat something. Then you blame the chef for all the poisonings and try to get the kitchen shut down as a public health hazard.
You're not talking to your victims here, there's no sense of dread, BUT there is an obvious motive (framing the chef) and you are increasing roleplay opportunities by starting an entire conversation about whether their food is poisoned, maybe even getting people to protest and calling for the chef to be arrested.
Verdict: PASS
Example 2 (I did this one): You're a medical doctor, fill your sleep pen with a cocktail of illegal drugs and stab the captain with it. Then, when they come into medbay complaining that they feel ill, you tut at them for getting high on duty. Do this a few more times while the captain is getting increasingly desperate to convince people they aren't taking drugs on the job, then try to convince the HoP to relieve them of their command due to their drug problem.
Again, you have a motive before you harm them and you're using the poisoning to try to make something happen in the round.
Verdict: PASS
Example 3: You walk into botany and start talking to a botanist about plant food, during the conversation you inject them with poison, watch them collapse, go "huh" and then walk out again.
You're talking to them, you're roleplaying with them, BUT you're not giving them a sense of dread, an obvious motive, or any means of reacting. You're also decreasing roleplay opportunities by taking them out of the round temporarily for no tangible payoff.
Verdict: FAIL
This is how I interpret the escalation rule, and as far as I'm aware how every current admin does.
The reason I said "silently" in your case is because the effect is the same as if you hadn't been talking to people, it doesn't change how the escalation rule applies because you're still not fulfilling any of the listed conditions. I know you weren't actually being silent and I'm sorry if you thought I was insulting you by saying so, or that it indicated I hadn't read the logs and was simply giving a knee-jerk reaction based on complaints. That was not my intention and that's not what I do.
I reacted sharply when you brought up being a former admin because to me it seems irrelevant and I can't think of a reason to bring it up other than favouritism or accusing me of being overly harsh on you. Quite honestly I don't really know who you are, I wasn't on the team when you left and the only interactions I've had with you are chatting about things in deadchat. I left you a notice because in my judgement you were (mildly) breaking the rules and that is how we inform people of that.
*breathout
-Leah