Complaint Mexicat, Morty RP, 22/11/7, 7:25 pm ast

[Flourish]

Is it possible the warning was sent after round ended and I was off the server?

The admin PM'd you while you were still online; it's possible that you didn't see it or the message got lost in the scroll.

Honky tonic was a server issued quest. On the wikipedia (https://wiki.ss13.co/Foods_and_Drinks) it had no mention of being toxic when the wiki usually would mention any toxin or brute. it is trial and error learning on such an old game when the wikipedia isn't kept under review.

If you aren't certain whether something is dangerous / griefy or not, then you should err on the side of caution. If you want to argue "well this niche thing wasn't perfectly comprehensively documented on the completely volunteer-run wiki", I'd like to refer you to what is clearly written in the second sentence of rule 1 on the rules page - This isn't limited to just killing people: dismembering, stripping, crippling, force-feeding, force-borging, uploading murder laws to the AI, setting up death traps, wrecking or depowering parts of the station, anything that explodes, etc. are all griefy. Ambiguity is inevitable, but if you'd rather deal with as little ambiguity as possible, then that sentence can serve as a good starting point for your understanding of what's okay and what's not.

The moderation feels inconsistent because I've been brutalized by non antags with no text exchanged ( such as the fed girl who tried to kill me with a wrench in response) and it feels like unless one make a report it's unseen. 
I don't expect you to have crystal balls but every escape shuttle has non antags murdering others before round end and it's just a normal tuesday.

Expecting admins to somehow catch rulebreaks that you don't ahelp is expecting us to have the equivalent of a crystal ball. I'm sorry that you've had those bad experiences - please adminhelp all and any future rulebreaks you witness.

I tried asking a mentor if it's against the rules or not for non antags to fight before round end when I observed a game for round end and saw the shuttle command had been murdered and broken into by the rest of the shuttle. They couldn't answer me and suggested I went higher up to ask. This is evident that the rules are so inconsistent that even a mentor doesn't know them.

Telling people to adminhelp instead of mentorhelp questions about the rules actually makes the rules more consistent since you're getting your source of truth from the people who actually enforce the rules.

Your complaint has been acknowledged and your points have addressed. We've determined that, yes, you have been warned in the past, even if you say you didn't see it, and no, this wasn't "a case of this admin getting upset I distracted them slightly from playing robustris", but rather a justified ban. I'll be locking this thread.