Goonhub
09-14-2022, 09:44 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-14-2022, 09:46 AM by Cherman0. Edited 1 time in total.)
The biggest issues are that engineering has basically two different jobs (run the engine and repair and modify the station) and both dont have a whole lot going for them.
For the engine, the burn chamber has been mediocre for years since the hellburn nerf and pipeburns have been made to be tedious and dangerous to the point of not really being fun to do (chemistry will never make you graphene, even if by some miracle they know how it's really tedious for them). The end result is that you either just do a "standard charburn" or run the chamber at basically the same efficiency with just 02 and Plasma and maybe oxygen B if mining has been productive. Neither are terribly fun, and neither will get you a notable amount of money from the PTL.
For repairing and modifying the station, you run into the problems mentioned earlier. Repairing the station is incredibly tedious. Floors, walls, air, lights, wires, equipment, pipes, etc. all need to be rebuilt in order to restore status quo. Most engineers will do floors, walls, wires, air, and maybe lights if they have the lamp machine on-hand. Aside from that, fiddling with pipes and shit is just too tedious, and is actually impossible (short of bombing the location again) if the pipes go under something that cant be deconstructed. I don't think anyone has ever repaired a MULE beacon, ever. I dont think repair being tedious is fixable or even should be fixed, as it necessarily involves recreating everything that was destroyed, which is usually a lot of things. Making that process speedy might reduce the impact of antags who damage the station, though some would argue that that isnt a bad thing.
The station already has everything that it needs in terms of rooms, and in the rare event that someone wants to build their own room they're just as well-equipped to do it as the engineers are (sheets and air and other equipment are all over the place) and so they just do it themselves. If anything, mechanics might get called to add scannable items to the room, but engineers arent wanted for the process at all. Limitations in how APCs and other room designations work also limits the usefulness of extra rooms.
For the engine, the burn chamber has been mediocre for years since the hellburn nerf and pipeburns have been made to be tedious and dangerous to the point of not really being fun to do (chemistry will never make you graphene, even if by some miracle they know how it's really tedious for them). The end result is that you either just do a "standard charburn" or run the chamber at basically the same efficiency with just 02 and Plasma and maybe oxygen B if mining has been productive. Neither are terribly fun, and neither will get you a notable amount of money from the PTL.
For repairing and modifying the station, you run into the problems mentioned earlier. Repairing the station is incredibly tedious. Floors, walls, air, lights, wires, equipment, pipes, etc. all need to be rebuilt in order to restore status quo. Most engineers will do floors, walls, wires, air, and maybe lights if they have the lamp machine on-hand. Aside from that, fiddling with pipes and shit is just too tedious, and is actually impossible (short of bombing the location again) if the pipes go under something that cant be deconstructed. I don't think anyone has ever repaired a MULE beacon, ever. I dont think repair being tedious is fixable or even should be fixed, as it necessarily involves recreating everything that was destroyed, which is usually a lot of things. Making that process speedy might reduce the impact of antags who damage the station, though some would argue that that isnt a bad thing.
The station already has everything that it needs in terms of rooms, and in the rare event that someone wants to build their own room they're just as well-equipped to do it as the engineers are (sheets and air and other equipment are all over the place) and so they just do it themselves. If anything, mechanics might get called to add scannable items to the room, but engineers arent wanted for the process at all. Limitations in how APCs and other room designations work also limits the usefulness of extra rooms.