detective

[Mopcat]

detective is probably the most problematic role in the game. they're MEANT to be a forensics role, but i could count the amount of players i've seen play detective as an actual detective on one hand. meanwhile, detective is very much geared towards self-antagging/validhunting and is overall played as "Security With Gun".

efforts to remedy that have been met with developer backlash because it'd be "punishing everyone for the actions of a few" meanwhile NTSO, a WHITELISTED role, had a controversial change pushed not too long ago, supposedly BECAUSE people were being shitters with it, and whether out of being tired of receiving ahelps about it or just plain favoritism towards the small amount of hos people being shitters with the role, a heavily protested change was pushed. i know that i wouldn't have gotten away with doing some of the things i've heard some of the longer-time hoses doing as ntso, and neither would plenty of other newer hos players.

meanwhile, changes like timelocking detective or removing their roundstart lethals are met with heavy backlash from the dev team for, imho, pretty hypocritical reasons

so, what the fuck is detective meant to be, and how the fuck do we plan on fixing the role?