Goonhub
11-02-2020, 01:20 PM
Disclaimer : I write this about 30 mins after the finished round (probably 2 now that I'm finishing it) so I will acknowledge that I might still be considered "salty" but honestly, I want to do this now before I forget anything or lose steam. Also forgive any sentences that don't flow properly, incorrect spelling or poor grammar.
Context:
I had a bad round playing as Head of Security. The details of the round are not neccesary, they're completely irrelevant. The general summary was I personally got overwhelmed with stuff going on (which is expected to happen on Main, especially as HoS). One of the things that happened specifically however was some random naked individual got into Security and started shooting at us with smoke shells from a riot gun. For the record, not only does getting hit with it directly give shrapnel, it also does considerable damage, so it's not a harmless prank done for fun.
Occasionally when I play HoS, I use the who command before joining to see how many players to expect to have to deal with and I noticed that we had 3 admins, Emily, Sord and QuestX. As such, after having arrested and brigged the naked guy who was clearly only looking to cause trouble, I adminhelped a quick message with "[naked guy] is greytiding". Eventually due to the barrage of things going on, one of them being the naked guy who managed to break out and was running around Security being a nuisance, the whole Security team was just overtaken and massacred fighting a shambling abomination at Security. In the end, it was obvious to me that nothing had been done to deal with the guy who had intentionally causing us trouble. End credits revealed that he was in fact not an antag what-so-ever
I didn't get asked for more details or a reply that it was being looked into. I know that we get told that we're not supposed to expect replies when AdminHelping however considering the fact that the guy later stole my items and ID after I had died, it wasn't hard to see that nothing was done at all.
The reason why I'm writing this complaint is because so far, I managed to deal with stuff like this before. I've followed the usual procedure of arrest, brig and AdminHelp if appropriate. And I've always told numerous people, "Even if there isn't an admin online currently, AdminHelp it. It'll go into the Discord server for someone to pick up on". But after AdminHelping with 3 admins online and seeing absolutely no intervention, my confidence with AdminHelps actually being sorted out has tanked considerably.
The reason I mention general admin presence on Main in the title because the quality of rounds on the Main server have fallen immeasurably, and it's something that's basically inspired most of the feelings in this post. The repetition of shitty behaviour has considerably waned my patience to it and has made me feel disdain to the server because of it. People will give different reasons why but personally to me, I think the current list of active admins doesn't neccesarily reflect the actual activity of said admins.
And yes, I understand that the admins are volunteers, I understand that it's incredibly draining trying to force yourself to be active on every front, I understand that the current admins are conciously working towards getting "new hires" so to speak and I understand that it's impossible to deal with such issues on such a large scale, of sometimes 70-90 players on a given round. Not to mention there's probably a lot of things you guys have to do with out us even knowing. However, I've often found myself looking at the list of admins on the sidebar on Discord and realised that, over the 2 years that I've been playing (and however long I've been in the Discord server), I don't think I've even heard some admins speak at all.
(Note that I definetely don't mean this in regards to people who actively develop for the game. Developing for free is one hell of a dedication)
To sum up :
For a while now, the current state of the server have been making it difficult to enjoy the game, despite my best efforts, and today's expirence hasn't helped at. I've been putting off talking properly about it anywhere because I have alot of issues of self-doubt and I always put the issue to be myself but today everything just sort of came together into this.
Context:
I had a bad round playing as Head of Security. The details of the round are not neccesary, they're completely irrelevant. The general summary was I personally got overwhelmed with stuff going on (which is expected to happen on Main, especially as HoS). One of the things that happened specifically however was some random naked individual got into Security and started shooting at us with smoke shells from a riot gun. For the record, not only does getting hit with it directly give shrapnel, it also does considerable damage, so it's not a harmless prank done for fun.
Occasionally when I play HoS, I use the who command before joining to see how many players to expect to have to deal with and I noticed that we had 3 admins, Emily, Sord and QuestX. As such, after having arrested and brigged the naked guy who was clearly only looking to cause trouble, I adminhelped a quick message with "[naked guy] is greytiding". Eventually due to the barrage of things going on, one of them being the naked guy who managed to break out and was running around Security being a nuisance, the whole Security team was just overtaken and massacred fighting a shambling abomination at Security. In the end, it was obvious to me that nothing had been done to deal with the guy who had intentionally causing us trouble. End credits revealed that he was in fact not an antag what-so-ever
I didn't get asked for more details or a reply that it was being looked into. I know that we get told that we're not supposed to expect replies when AdminHelping however considering the fact that the guy later stole my items and ID after I had died, it wasn't hard to see that nothing was done at all.
The reason why I'm writing this complaint is because so far, I managed to deal with stuff like this before. I've followed the usual procedure of arrest, brig and AdminHelp if appropriate. And I've always told numerous people, "Even if there isn't an admin online currently, AdminHelp it. It'll go into the Discord server for someone to pick up on". But after AdminHelping with 3 admins online and seeing absolutely no intervention, my confidence with AdminHelps actually being sorted out has tanked considerably.
The reason I mention general admin presence on Main in the title because the quality of rounds on the Main server have fallen immeasurably, and it's something that's basically inspired most of the feelings in this post. The repetition of shitty behaviour has considerably waned my patience to it and has made me feel disdain to the server because of it. People will give different reasons why but personally to me, I think the current list of active admins doesn't neccesarily reflect the actual activity of said admins.
And yes, I understand that the admins are volunteers, I understand that it's incredibly draining trying to force yourself to be active on every front, I understand that the current admins are conciously working towards getting "new hires" so to speak and I understand that it's impossible to deal with such issues on such a large scale, of sometimes 70-90 players on a given round. Not to mention there's probably a lot of things you guys have to do with out us even knowing. However, I've often found myself looking at the list of admins on the sidebar on Discord and realised that, over the 2 years that I've been playing (and however long I've been in the Discord server), I don't think I've even heard some admins speak at all.
(Note that I definetely don't mean this in regards to people who actively develop for the game. Developing for free is one hell of a dedication)
To sum up :
For a while now, the current state of the server have been making it difficult to enjoy the game, despite my best efforts, and today's expirence hasn't helped at. I've been putting off talking properly about it anywhere because I have alot of issues of self-doubt and I always put the issue to be myself but today everything just sort of came together into this.