Goonhub
12-10-2018, 07:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-10-2018, 07:45 AM by Recusor. Edited 1 time in total.)
In the excellent hard-scifi Jean le Flambeur series by Hannu Rajaniemi the concept of a gogol is introduced as part of a post-technological singularity collective of uploaded minds collectively referred to as the Sobornost.
Most of the gogols used by the Sobornost are uploaded human minds that have been enslaved to help carry out tasks, excepting those who lead the Sobornost.
My idea is to integrate the dead in a way to provide support to the AI. We already have VR ghosts and ghost drones, but have you ever been an AI at 70 minutes in with many if not all APCs dead and requests coming left right and centre for your attention?
What if instead there was an option to "generate gogol" in the AI command list. This would allow you to poll the dead to see who if anyone wants to join the AI. If someone accepts they get their own AEye and can look around and interact with many things in a similar way to the AI, but would remain entirely subservient to it and not be able to communicate to either cyborgs, or other humans, at all.
In my mind Im envisioning the AI seeing the gogol player's text as small and restricted to a character limit to represent their limited cognition. As an example -
S.A.M.: gogol's 1 and 2 please focus on restoring power to the station. gogol 3, please respond to any door requests to unrestricted areas. I need to portamed people to escape!
gogol 1: command rec. actioning
gogol 3: comply unable, power restricted
gogol 2: damaged wiring, physical presence req
alternatively, perhaps a literal text whitelist box similar to station naming where only certain words can be combined to try to convey meaning
Some thoughts on pros, cons, and suggestions for restrictions
Pros:
-Helps involve dead players in station maintenance, or perhaps destruction if AI is rogue
-Can help ease the burden of an AI that has many incoming requests and only one AEye at a time
-Is kinda cool and sci-fi-ish
Cons:
-Might be boring if its a slow round and not enough is going on. It would be a limited form of ghostdrone that doesn't allow hats
-If the AI pinged and got a response to quickly it may be able to be evidence of an early murder or violence. Additionally to this there would have to be hard restrictions on revealing and information made available in previous life or while dead.
-if AI is rogue and is commanding a legion of gogols to cause havoc it might be too much for a crew to handle.
Suggestions:
-I would suggest that the gogol summon/call option be made available only after 10-15 minutes
-A hard restriction on information that can be revealed to the AI by gogols, with people who violate this rule not being allowed to take advantage of the option on a limited or permanent basis
-limiting some advanced AI functions to AI only, such as interacting with computer consoles.
EDIT- Also, maybe allowing gogol's to go BACK to being dead if they get bored perhaps.
As a note, I feel the biggest downside to this would be that it might be too much work for too little return. Id love to get everyones thoughts though! This is part of my ongoing brainstorming to try to make AI more engaging and perhaps threatening when rogue.
Most of the gogols used by the Sobornost are uploaded human minds that have been enslaved to help carry out tasks, excepting those who lead the Sobornost.
My idea is to integrate the dead in a way to provide support to the AI. We already have VR ghosts and ghost drones, but have you ever been an AI at 70 minutes in with many if not all APCs dead and requests coming left right and centre for your attention?
What if instead there was an option to "generate gogol" in the AI command list. This would allow you to poll the dead to see who if anyone wants to join the AI. If someone accepts they get their own AEye and can look around and interact with many things in a similar way to the AI, but would remain entirely subservient to it and not be able to communicate to either cyborgs, or other humans, at all.
In my mind Im envisioning the AI seeing the gogol player's text as small and restricted to a character limit to represent their limited cognition. As an example -
S.A.M.: gogol's 1 and 2 please focus on restoring power to the station. gogol 3, please respond to any door requests to unrestricted areas. I need to portamed people to escape!
gogol 1: command rec. actioning
gogol 3: comply unable, power restricted
gogol 2: damaged wiring, physical presence req
alternatively, perhaps a literal text whitelist box similar to station naming where only certain words can be combined to try to convey meaning
Some thoughts on pros, cons, and suggestions for restrictions
Pros:
-Helps involve dead players in station maintenance, or perhaps destruction if AI is rogue
-Can help ease the burden of an AI that has many incoming requests and only one AEye at a time
-Is kinda cool and sci-fi-ish
Cons:
-Might be boring if its a slow round and not enough is going on. It would be a limited form of ghostdrone that doesn't allow hats
-If the AI pinged and got a response to quickly it may be able to be evidence of an early murder or violence. Additionally to this there would have to be hard restrictions on revealing and information made available in previous life or while dead.
-if AI is rogue and is commanding a legion of gogols to cause havoc it might be too much for a crew to handle.
Suggestions:
-I would suggest that the gogol summon/call option be made available only after 10-15 minutes
-A hard restriction on information that can be revealed to the AI by gogols, with people who violate this rule not being allowed to take advantage of the option on a limited or permanent basis
-limiting some advanced AI functions to AI only, such as interacting with computer consoles.
EDIT- Also, maybe allowing gogol's to go BACK to being dead if they get bored perhaps.
As a note, I feel the biggest downside to this would be that it might be too much work for too little return. Id love to get everyones thoughts though! This is part of my ongoing brainstorming to try to make AI more engaging and perhaps threatening when rogue.