Goonhub
04-12-2017, 11:31 AM
Hi, I'm from the "I'm bored at work and wanted to waste my time here so you didn't have to" department. Ed's repeatedly said that people haven't been reading what he's been saying. To that end, I've dumped 10 minutes of my life and combed the thread and found two posts that he himself uses to sum up his thoughts.
If you feel I've misrepresented your two summary posts, please do speak up. As far as I can tell, it boils down to "I want to be able to get antags to the brig quickly and safely, the drag changes make this much harder; the port-a-brig isn't enough". A few of your other posts have talked about getting people out of hazardous areas, but the focus has always come back to brigging folks.
(02-13-2017, 04:23 PM)Ed Venture Wrote: *snip*
Here's are all my concerns just incase you have not read them.
(02-13-2017, 03:02 AM)Ed Venture Wrote:(02-12-2017, 09:52 PM)Boon Yoon Wrote: The speed for dragging people has pretty dire implications for playing sec. And before anyone says anything, fuck the port-a-brig.
This is my main concern as I play nothing but Security. You can say use the port a brig but I still have to get them to a place so I can grab my PDA, Open the window, call the port-a-brig, throw them in it and lock it, then go back to my PDA and send it back. That can take more then a few seconds and alot can happen in a few seconds. Such a easy task has now been made considerably harder. If you are trying to give more reasons to not play security you are doing a great job at that.
I can live with this change the one good thing I can say about it is that it's going to make dealing with people who take the people you handcuff away easier to deal with. But it's also going to make the game slow to a crawl at some points and I don't think that's a good thing.
I won't lie. I think it's a bad change mainly cause I think it's going to make security needlessly harder and I believe the reasoning behind the change is a poor one with not that much thought going into it. Again the reason stated in the IRC was because no one uses other transportation items. That means they are not viable for most players and if the way to make them viable is to nerf every single player then I have to say it's bad as I don't believe forcing players to use things we never needed before is a good thing. Make things better so we want to use them without making somethings worse.
This also makes dragging people to safety alot harder as well. You can say it's harder for antags to drag people away as well, so it's balanced for both sides and your right, but for the most part the only antags that's going to be effected are Changelings and Vampires. Any other antag just kills on the spot. Getting people out of harm's way and saving them is always my top proity as a Security Officer which I feel is now unnecessarily harder to do. This will just encourage players to ignore dead bodies and injured players more so then they do now and encourage security to just hunt for antags instead of caring for the crew while trying to protect them.
(02-16-2017, 07:02 PM)Ed Venture Wrote:(02-16-2017, 06:57 PM)RAWK_LAWBSTAR Wrote: Though since no one remembers to use the port-a-brig
I have mention my issues with the port-a-brig since this change multiple times in this thread and I believe Sundance has as well.
Here's most of the issues with the port-a-brig posted in this thread.
(02-12-2017, 09:24 PM)Grifflez Wrote: The port-a-brig is often forgotten by a security officer AND god help anyone that has to arrest more then one person.
(02-13-2017, 03:02 AM)Ed Venture Wrote:(02-12-2017, 09:52 PM)Boon Yoon Wrote: The speed for dragging people has pretty dire implications for playing sec. And before anyone says anything, fuck the port-a-brig.
This is my main concern as I play nothing but Security. You can say use the port a brig but I still have to get them to a place so I can grab my PDA, Open the window, call the port-a-brig, throw them in it and lock it, then go back to my PDA and send it back. That can take more then a few seconds and alot can happen in a few seconds. Such a easy task has now been made considerably harder. If you are trying to give more reasons to not play security you are doing a great job at that.
(02-14-2017, 01:31 AM)Sundance Wrote: I agree that turbo pulling is heck annoying, but resolving it with port-a-whatevers isnt going to be enough and in the end I can imagine this just making medical and security grumpy. Ive made my suggestion regarding this already.
Also I've been using the port-a-brig religiously since we could summon it with the PDA.
(02-16-2017, 06:57 PM)RAWK_LAWBSTAR Wrote: Alternatively add a material to mining that's got antigravity properties and makes things floaty. Or people who swap their legs out with treads don't have to worry about this. Or get some highend wheelie cyberlegs or something. Be worthwhile to allow sec officers to start with sweet cyberlegs if this were the case.
I do like this idea though as it would give me more of a reason to enhance myself during a round.
If you feel I've misrepresented your two summary posts, please do speak up. As far as I can tell, it boils down to "I want to be able to get antags to the brig quickly and safely, the drag changes make this much harder; the port-a-brig isn't enough". A few of your other posts have talked about getting people out of hazardous areas, but the focus has always come back to brigging folks.