Goonhub
11-08-2016, 04:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-08-2016, 04:52 AM by Gannets. Edited 1 time in total.)
If you're looking for more admins to give you their take on this, I'll happily give you mine.
I understand that the point of AI laws being so strict about wording is to allow AI/borg players to interpret their exact meaning. But this feels like you were grasping at straws to avoid following through on a law that was clear in it's intentions, but you didn't want to follow.
Arguing the validity of AI laws is kind of a horrible slog through treacle since it's pretty much always a semantic argument, but the wording of that law looks like it holds up to me, similarly written laws have worked perfectly fine in the past. At some point you have to look at the law as somebody playing a videogame and go "Well, yeah. It's pretty clear what they want me to do and there's no glaring flaw that gets me out of it. Better bite the bullet."
The law wanted you to commit suicide, there's a function in the game for AI players to commit suicide. Just because it isn't worded in such a way that you feel like it applies to a human brain in a box doesn't make it invalid, to me.
As far as gibbing you is concerned, Haine looked a the adminhelp, looked at your laws, decided that the law was valid and that you aught to have followed it, then when she couldn't persuade you to follow it, make you follow it by killing you herself.
This doesn't scream of admin abuse to me, an admin made a call that you disagreed with. It happens! You weren't gibbed at random, your law called for you to die. An admin agreed that the law was valid, so you died.
I understand that the point of AI laws being so strict about wording is to allow AI/borg players to interpret their exact meaning. But this feels like you were grasping at straws to avoid following through on a law that was clear in it's intentions, but you didn't want to follow.
Arguing the validity of AI laws is kind of a horrible slog through treacle since it's pretty much always a semantic argument, but the wording of that law looks like it holds up to me, similarly written laws have worked perfectly fine in the past. At some point you have to look at the law as somebody playing a videogame and go "Well, yeah. It's pretty clear what they want me to do and there's no glaring flaw that gets me out of it. Better bite the bullet."
The law wanted you to commit suicide, there's a function in the game for AI players to commit suicide. Just because it isn't worded in such a way that you feel like it applies to a human brain in a box doesn't make it invalid, to me.
As far as gibbing you is concerned, Haine looked a the adminhelp, looked at your laws, decided that the law was valid and that you aught to have followed it, then when she couldn't persuade you to follow it, make you follow it by killing you herself.
This doesn't scream of admin abuse to me, an admin made a call that you disagreed with. It happens! You weren't gibbed at random, your law called for you to die. An admin agreed that the law was valid, so you died.