09-28-2016, 07:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-28-2016, 07:30 PM by Ed Venture. Edited 1 time in total.)
And I'm sorry but if a Captain orders me do something which forces me to ignore a bigger threat while other are dying I won't obey him or at least tell the Captain it can wait while I deal with it and that it could go faster if we both took care of the issue. I don't think anyone will be too upset that I do that and seeing how I've never been in trouble with how I ignore dumb Captains throughout my time as a HoS I'm incline to believe I'm not doing anything wrong again it's pretty situational and I think I put it best in my last post. Security has it's priority's and I dare you to tell me every Captain has security's and the crew best interest in mind with some of the asinine things they try to order security around with.
Well you said they are only chosen to be trusted with the armory. When the wiki says that and they are there to keep officers in check and watch the watchmen so to speak. I get your frustration over this topic seeing how you're the first person I've seen in over three years to have this mindset. I've had this conversation with you many times in IRC and I thought the last time we came to a understanding that Captain's orders are to be obeyed if they are sensible, not dumb or get in the way of bigger problems of the station. This may be a misunderstanding on my part but it seems you think they should be obeyed 100% of the time no matter what and I don't agree and you have not presented yourself in a way to make me think otherwise. Again I trust a player who has been chosen by his peers to be a HoS on his merits on how he plays the Job Role of Security. The people who vote yes on a player are saying they trust this person to manage shit security and even demote heads if they have to. I've demoted Captains and Security Officers before and even encourage them to adminhelp me if I did something wrong. Never got yelled at so I don't think I was doing anything wrong in that regard over the years.
This just comes off "This is how I play Security so you should play it that way"
Also the wiki is a guideline not necessary the bible of goonstation
(09-28-2016, 07:14 PM)UrsulaMejor Wrote:(09-28-2016, 07:08 PM)Ed Venture Wrote: Again the "Other Duties" part of the HoS's wiki page says they are trusted with more then just having access to the armory.
other duties Wrote:
Not seeing anything that serves as a counter argument for my position. Care to elaborate?
Well you said they are only chosen to be trusted with the armory. When the wiki says that and they are there to keep officers in check and watch the watchmen so to speak. I get your frustration over this topic seeing how you're the first person I've seen in over three years to have this mindset. I've had this conversation with you many times in IRC and I thought the last time we came to a understanding that Captain's orders are to be obeyed if they are sensible, not dumb or get in the way of bigger problems of the station. This may be a misunderstanding on my part but it seems you think they should be obeyed 100% of the time no matter what and I don't agree and you have not presented yourself in a way to make me think otherwise. Again I trust a player who has been chosen by his peers to be a HoS on his merits on how he plays the Job Role of Security. The people who vote yes on a player are saying they trust this person to manage shit security and even demote heads if they have to. I've demoted Captains and Security Officers before and even encourage them to adminhelp me if I did something wrong. Never got yelled at so I don't think I was doing anything wrong in that regard over the years.
This just comes off "This is how I play Security so you should play it that way"
Also the wiki is a guideline not necessary the bible of goonstation