Goonhub
09-28-2016, 06:20 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-28-2016, 08:04 PM by Ed Venture. Edited 7 times in total.
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I believe the HoS has more say then the captain because for one the players who are a Head of Security had to show that they could be trusted with the job and then be put in that position by the players around them and one of the things they are trusted with is vetoing a Captain's orders. While most of the time you see people constantly giving a captain scorn for getting in the way. That and I've even seen Admins in game straight up say to listen to the HoS over a Captain numerous times, I never had the hindsight to take screenshot of this cause it seemed that most players and admins agreed with that statement so take that with a gain of salt.
Though it seems people like the power struggle between the captain and HoS so maybe that's why it's always been vague or favored one or the other depending on your point of view.
I for one have had too many shit Captains try to order me around during dire moments in a round only to get super angry with me and attack me over and over again cause I would not help them track down the unknown who stole their hat while I was trying to investigate and stop Changelings, Traitors, Wizards and Nuke Ops from killing more members of the crew.
One thing I've seen admins and players say about the captain is "They are just Staff Assistants with a Gold ID with all access" and that statement is completely true.
I pretty much follow the Captain as a HoS till I think what he wants me to do is going to get me in trouble with Admins, Hurt crewmembers, distract me from other pressing matters on the station (AKA doing my Job). I'm all for Teamwork hell I made it my goal for years as a HoS to improve teamwork among Security and the Heads but experience has shown me that seven times out of ten even with the benefit of a doubt Captains are just going to fuck things up for everyone. Not saying I metagame captains but I give them the chance to do this and have played with Captains who understood what was more important for Security to do. Their orders have their place but if I feel they are not important enough I ignore them. These examples are completely situational mind you and most of the time a Captain comes in with a "Arrest so and so for having the dreaded Devil's Grass" the issue that comes up is that they have shit timing and get super upset (sometimes violent) when I say "No, that's a shit reason to arrest someone right now"
Though it seems people like the power struggle between the captain and HoS so maybe that's why it's always been vague or favored one or the other depending on your point of view.
I for one have had too many shit Captains try to order me around during dire moments in a round only to get super angry with me and attack me over and over again cause I would not help them track down the unknown who stole their hat while I was trying to investigate and stop Changelings, Traitors, Wizards and Nuke Ops from killing more members of the crew.
One thing I've seen admins and players say about the captain is "They are just Staff Assistants with a Gold ID with all access" and that statement is completely true.
I pretty much follow the Captain as a HoS till I think what he wants me to do is going to get me in trouble with Admins, Hurt crewmembers, distract me from other pressing matters on the station (AKA doing my Job). I'm all for Teamwork hell I made it my goal for years as a HoS to improve teamwork among Security and the Heads but experience has shown me that seven times out of ten even with the benefit of a doubt Captains are just going to fuck things up for everyone. Not saying I metagame captains but I give them the chance to do this and have played with Captains who understood what was more important for Security to do. Their orders have their place but if I feel they are not important enough I ignore them. These examples are completely situational mind you and most of the time a Captain comes in with a "Arrest so and so for having the dreaded Devil's Grass" the issue that comes up is that they have shit timing and get super upset (sometimes violent) when I say "No, that's a shit reason to arrest someone right now"