Goonhub
08-08-2016, 06:35 AM
You're raising several points here, so I'll try address them separately:
As far as I'm concerned, defamation of other officers is A-OK, that includes calling them shitsec/supercops/tryhards/etc, because it's not implying they're breaking the rules, it's implying their shit and anyone can call out someone if they feel like they are shit. Free speech n' all.
However, saying that they are metagaming on the radio is ironically metagaming in itself and is a very bad as it's OOC in IC. If someone feels like someone is breaking rules, then it's adminhelp, not yelling it on the radio. The fact of the matter was that the ling was baiting for someone to help him, which is fine if it's within the rules, but in this situation it was not.
The MD directly helping him was fucking with security. I don't think the MD was breaking any rules per se, but he definitely deserved to be arrested as they are the worst people. If this is a repeat offense of fucking with sec then a severe beating is warranted.
If someone is yelling "HELP SHIT SEC" then likelihood of an officer actually being bad is very slim. The best counter for this is as an officer is to state on the radio what the persons job is and what they are arrested for, followed by audible jeering at the arrested target.
If someone is yelling "HELP SECURITY IS FUCKING STABBING ME" and the officer then gives a lame excuse or none at all, followed by utter silence, then it's a sure sign that it's possible that the officer is rogue. But it's not recommended that you chase that officer down, more than you investigate, preferably with the AI if the case is true.
Quote:...As an example from a few weeks back, the security team had a report of a doctor neurotoxin symptoms in medbay...
As far as I'm concerned, defamation of other officers is A-OK, that includes calling them shitsec/supercops/tryhards/etc, because it's not implying they're breaking the rules, it's implying their shit and anyone can call out someone if they feel like they are shit. Free speech n' all.
However, saying that they are metagaming on the radio is ironically metagaming in itself and is a very bad as it's OOC in IC. If someone feels like someone is breaking rules, then it's adminhelp, not yelling it on the radio. The fact of the matter was that the ling was baiting for someone to help him, which is fine if it's within the rules, but in this situation it was not.
The MD directly helping him was fucking with security. I don't think the MD was breaking any rules per se, but he definitely deserved to be arrested as they are the worst people. If this is a repeat offense of fucking with sec then a severe beating is warranted.
Quote:..As another example, I've seen a lot of changelings accuse the AI of "ignoring its laws" or "supercopping" when it announces that someone is a changeling..The AI is well within it's rights to track someone if it suspects wrongdoing. However it shouldn't bolt someone down on suspicion, that's supercopping. A better option would be to notify the crew or better yet PDA security. It SHOULD bolt someone down if security requested it. Regarding a ling, an aggressive AI is almost necessary as the the current station is a fucking buffet for lings. Furthermore the AI SHOULDN'T attack a ling unless it sees with its very eyes nonhuman activity. If it does, then it's ignoring its laws. You can't attack someone "just incase" it's a ling. That's supercopping and breaking your laws to boot. Quarantining a suspected ling is not supercopping. A bit of tact when it comes to playing AI is a must.
Quote: What do you do when that happens?It's in the language really.
If someone is yelling "HELP SHIT SEC" then likelihood of an officer actually being bad is very slim. The best counter for this is as an officer is to state on the radio what the persons job is and what they are arrested for, followed by audible jeering at the arrested target.
If someone is yelling "HELP SECURITY IS FUCKING STABBING ME" and the officer then gives a lame excuse or none at all, followed by utter silence, then it's a sure sign that it's possible that the officer is rogue. But it's not recommended that you chase that officer down, more than you investigate, preferably with the AI if the case is true.