Goonhub
07-02-2016, 02:05 PM
How about:
1. Don't grief. Keep in mind, the other players are people too. Don't do anything that will ruin their round without a Very Good Reason. This isn't limited to just killing people: dismembering, stripping, crippling, force-feeding, force-borging, uploading murder laws to the AI, setting up death traps, wrecking or depowering parts of the station, anything that explodes, etc. are all griefy. As is whatever horrible thing you just thought of that wasn't listed. As a rule of thumb, if it's bad and takes more than 10 minutes for a normal player to fix, it is covered by this rule. If someone is confirmed (via game mechanics) to be an antagonist, is a cluwne, has agreed to whatever you're planning to do (note: doesn't apply to bombs or otherwise destroying station parts), or you've seen them griefing people this round, you probably have a Very Good Reason to go after them. If you're not sure if your reason is good enough, it's probably not. Feel free to adminhelp for clarification anyways. Antagonists and emagged cyborgs may ignore this rule whenever they want to. Mindslaves and thralls must ignore this rule if their masters require it of them, or if their orders are made more convenient by ignoring it (example: if you are ordered to kill someone, go ahead. if you are ordered to steal a pair of shoes, you probably don't need to blow medbay to smithereens to do so.) Silicons must ignore this rule if their orders/laws require it of them, but aren't allowed to grief otherwise. Note: braindead people still count as people. They might be coming back. A longer discussion of grief and what does and doesn't constitute it is available [link here].
I blurred the 'you have a Good Reason' bit slightly to make it clear that no, you can't destroy medbay because one doctor said it was cool, and also adding the word 'probably' to discourage using it for ruleslawyering.
I also clarified what I'm pretty sure the stance on mindslaves is, which is that grife is only against the rules for a mindslave if it's absolutely gratuitous.
I still want to keep the page with more detail, because it allows expansion of a few more edge cases.
How's that look?
1. Don't grief. Keep in mind, the other players are people too. Don't do anything that will ruin their round without a Very Good Reason. This isn't limited to just killing people: dismembering, stripping, crippling, force-feeding, force-borging, uploading murder laws to the AI, setting up death traps, wrecking or depowering parts of the station, anything that explodes, etc. are all griefy. As is whatever horrible thing you just thought of that wasn't listed. As a rule of thumb, if it's bad and takes more than 10 minutes for a normal player to fix, it is covered by this rule. If someone is confirmed (via game mechanics) to be an antagonist, is a cluwne, has agreed to whatever you're planning to do (note: doesn't apply to bombs or otherwise destroying station parts), or you've seen them griefing people this round, you probably have a Very Good Reason to go after them. If you're not sure if your reason is good enough, it's probably not. Feel free to adminhelp for clarification anyways. Antagonists and emagged cyborgs may ignore this rule whenever they want to. Mindslaves and thralls must ignore this rule if their masters require it of them, or if their orders are made more convenient by ignoring it (example: if you are ordered to kill someone, go ahead. if you are ordered to steal a pair of shoes, you probably don't need to blow medbay to smithereens to do so.) Silicons must ignore this rule if their orders/laws require it of them, but aren't allowed to grief otherwise. Note: braindead people still count as people. They might be coming back. A longer discussion of grief and what does and doesn't constitute it is available [link here].
I blurred the 'you have a Good Reason' bit slightly to make it clear that no, you can't destroy medbay because one doctor said it was cool, and also adding the word 'probably' to discourage using it for ruleslawyering.
I also clarified what I'm pretty sure the stance on mindslaves is, which is that grife is only against the rules for a mindslave if it's absolutely gratuitous.
I still want to keep the page with more detail, because it allows expansion of a few more edge cases.
How's that look?