Goonhub
06-25-2016, 10:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-25-2016, 11:02 AM by Boa Jacque. Edited 1 time in total.)
The forensics scanner is super robust. Finding insulated fibers narrows your search tremendously. Finding only one set of prints on a traitor item narrows your search to 1.
I do get the headache it is to be detective, as any random traitor probably will take any chance they can to quickly off you, given the chance. For one you have a gun and a buncha bullets, and some traitors feel the need to pack lots of guns (or manage to use up all their ammo in short order). Plus if you are competent then you are a huge threat.
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In regards to admins fucking with rampagers -- Its happened to me once. It wasn't as bad as getting a floorcluwne thrown at me or any of the other worse instances of intervention mentioned recently. But at the time I discovered what was going on I felt cheated... I was a wizard and was cheaply killing with TK, stuns, and deathpills and I'd killed half a dozen or more people. Suddenly I was fighting a really robust and stun resistant crewman who was jazzed up with a handful of good genetic traits. This guy was admin spawned in, and after gibbing this guy I encountered 2 more admin-respawned supermen. Their abilities varied a bit and their objective was to take me out. They were granted stun and fire resist, 2 of the main things I was employing, which I thought was a little cheap.
In the end, despite feeling like an admin was grudging my playstyle, I thought it was alright.(In this case) I got to fight a few superpowered enemies and the dead in deadchat had somebody to root for. The 3 supermen got an extra life and essentially a unique counter-antag role. I'm cool with them being handed some extra fun, its a positive way to handle a boring rampage. (unless they whined and bitched and the admin did this to quell the whines of salty ghosts, please no sympathy for babies)
I'd have felt way more cheated if I'd lost to these supermen but I won so I get to look back at it from both sides without feeling jaded. The admin didn't gib me, didn't rip off my limbs or directly "touch" my character in any way, and didn't go so far as to make my opponents undefeatable. I don't think it was fair they were super-granted resistances to my stuff, and would have prefered them to be granted a syndie PDA or some shit, as this wouldn't essentially -take- away any of my powers. But I like how more players got to have fun with the round, and I bet deadchat was full of the jeers and cheers you'd expect at a heated sports event -- way better than an empty deadchat or 2 idiot crew arguing over who broke the rules in attacking the other or etc.
That being said, the level of intervention on rampages has become distasteful in my opinion. We basically roll dice for antag, its a fair system. Fair because whoever gets to be the badguy gets to do it their way with their "roll". Some days I rampage, some days I sneak, some days I try hard to complete my objectives. Either way I'll be trying to have fun, and i'm the lucky license holder of the "your fun can ruin others fun so just do what seems most fun and don't worry" ticket. Tampering with this sentiment feels at its core very un-goonstation.
I do get the headache it is to be detective, as any random traitor probably will take any chance they can to quickly off you, given the chance. For one you have a gun and a buncha bullets, and some traitors feel the need to pack lots of guns (or manage to use up all their ammo in short order). Plus if you are competent then you are a huge threat.
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In regards to admins fucking with rampagers -- Its happened to me once. It wasn't as bad as getting a floorcluwne thrown at me or any of the other worse instances of intervention mentioned recently. But at the time I discovered what was going on I felt cheated... I was a wizard and was cheaply killing with TK, stuns, and deathpills and I'd killed half a dozen or more people. Suddenly I was fighting a really robust and stun resistant crewman who was jazzed up with a handful of good genetic traits. This guy was admin spawned in, and after gibbing this guy I encountered 2 more admin-respawned supermen. Their abilities varied a bit and their objective was to take me out. They were granted stun and fire resist, 2 of the main things I was employing, which I thought was a little cheap.
In the end, despite feeling like an admin was grudging my playstyle, I thought it was alright.(In this case) I got to fight a few superpowered enemies and the dead in deadchat had somebody to root for. The 3 supermen got an extra life and essentially a unique counter-antag role. I'm cool with them being handed some extra fun, its a positive way to handle a boring rampage. (unless they whined and bitched and the admin did this to quell the whines of salty ghosts, please no sympathy for babies)
I'd have felt way more cheated if I'd lost to these supermen but I won so I get to look back at it from both sides without feeling jaded. The admin didn't gib me, didn't rip off my limbs or directly "touch" my character in any way, and didn't go so far as to make my opponents undefeatable. I don't think it was fair they were super-granted resistances to my stuff, and would have prefered them to be granted a syndie PDA or some shit, as this wouldn't essentially -take- away any of my powers. But I like how more players got to have fun with the round, and I bet deadchat was full of the jeers and cheers you'd expect at a heated sports event -- way better than an empty deadchat or 2 idiot crew arguing over who broke the rules in attacking the other or etc.
That being said, the level of intervention on rampages has become distasteful in my opinion. We basically roll dice for antag, its a fair system. Fair because whoever gets to be the badguy gets to do it their way with their "roll". Some days I rampage, some days I sneak, some days I try hard to complete my objectives. Either way I'll be trying to have fun, and i'm the lucky license holder of the "your fun can ruin others fun so just do what seems most fun and don't worry" ticket. Tampering with this sentiment feels at its core very un-goonstation.