Goonhub
06-22-2016, 04:23 AM
My general guidelines that I've follow to Not Be A Jerk kinda go like this, in case we need to qualify what being a jerk is.
1. Do not intentionally and unavoidably incapacitate another player for an extended period of time. There are a number of terms that need expounding on in this simple sentence.
a. Intention matters. Accidents happen, whether you're blowing up toxins, making azide in chemistry, burning down the engine, smashing people with crates via belt hell, or releasing a loaf on the station. So long as you learn from your mistake and avoid repeating it, you'll not get banned.
b. Avoidable mischief is fine. Goon has good tradition of suicide booths, floor pills and deadly bartending. All a player has to do to avoid those consequences is not touch them. Caveat emptor! Likewise, refusing to evacuate the testing chamber when some guy is shouting to move back because he wants to test some hellacious concoction, that's your fault if you die horribly.
c. Incapacitate defined as removing the ability of a player to do their assigned job. Obviously death is incapacitating, but there's many other ways to ruin someone else's day. Cutting off their arms or straitjacketing. Walling someone away. Stranding a person in space/telesci with no way back. All the way down to destroying a workplace or stealing an ID. I know some admins have said ID theft by non-antags is kosher but I would disagree with that. Permitting it once invites random asshole who is disposaling IDs to do it repeatedly and round after round. So if it's okay once for mischief, why not twice? I think there used to even be an antag objective that was 'Steal # ID cards' or something.
d. Another player includes nonhuman players: monkeys, visiting diplomats, or the synthetics. But not cluwnes.
e. I used to say permanently, then encountered a round where a non-antag put several people into morphine comas for a half-hour. What exactly constitutes an extended period of time is unclear. Flashing or stun batoning someone, fine. Keeping someone locked up for twenty minutes, probably not fine. Where the line is drawn on how long it's okay to hold someone will depend on circumstances. A sec officer who forgets someone in the port-a-brig because they're being pulled to a half dozen different crisises is a different case than someone repeatedly flashing a guy for twenty minutes.
2. Rule 1 does not apply to antags, coming or going. A player should have reasonable suspicion that someone is an antag before going on the offensive. Reasonable suspicion is terribly nebulous. Chucklefucks who like to throw nitroglycerin at people who are carrying a suspicious pen get notes, then told not to do it again, then time outs if they keep being bloodthirsty. The more you push reasonable suspicion, the less leeway you get in the future.
3. Rule 1 protects the synthetics while Law 1 is in place and protecting all humans. Synthetics, however, don't have to follow Rule 1 - they just have to follow their laws.
Naturally all of this should be cleaned up to be directed at players by someone better with words than I am. But those were the guidelines I ran by to Not Be A Jerk.
1. Do not intentionally and unavoidably incapacitate another player for an extended period of time. There are a number of terms that need expounding on in this simple sentence.
a. Intention matters. Accidents happen, whether you're blowing up toxins, making azide in chemistry, burning down the engine, smashing people with crates via belt hell, or releasing a loaf on the station. So long as you learn from your mistake and avoid repeating it, you'll not get banned.
b. Avoidable mischief is fine. Goon has good tradition of suicide booths, floor pills and deadly bartending. All a player has to do to avoid those consequences is not touch them. Caveat emptor! Likewise, refusing to evacuate the testing chamber when some guy is shouting to move back because he wants to test some hellacious concoction, that's your fault if you die horribly.
c. Incapacitate defined as removing the ability of a player to do their assigned job. Obviously death is incapacitating, but there's many other ways to ruin someone else's day. Cutting off their arms or straitjacketing. Walling someone away. Stranding a person in space/telesci with no way back. All the way down to destroying a workplace or stealing an ID. I know some admins have said ID theft by non-antags is kosher but I would disagree with that. Permitting it once invites random asshole who is disposaling IDs to do it repeatedly and round after round. So if it's okay once for mischief, why not twice? I think there used to even be an antag objective that was 'Steal # ID cards' or something.
d. Another player includes nonhuman players: monkeys, visiting diplomats, or the synthetics. But not cluwnes.
e. I used to say permanently, then encountered a round where a non-antag put several people into morphine comas for a half-hour. What exactly constitutes an extended period of time is unclear. Flashing or stun batoning someone, fine. Keeping someone locked up for twenty minutes, probably not fine. Where the line is drawn on how long it's okay to hold someone will depend on circumstances. A sec officer who forgets someone in the port-a-brig because they're being pulled to a half dozen different crisises is a different case than someone repeatedly flashing a guy for twenty minutes.
2. Rule 1 does not apply to antags, coming or going. A player should have reasonable suspicion that someone is an antag before going on the offensive. Reasonable suspicion is terribly nebulous. Chucklefucks who like to throw nitroglycerin at people who are carrying a suspicious pen get notes, then told not to do it again, then time outs if they keep being bloodthirsty. The more you push reasonable suspicion, the less leeway you get in the future.
3. Rule 1 protects the synthetics while Law 1 is in place and protecting all humans. Synthetics, however, don't have to follow Rule 1 - they just have to follow their laws.
Naturally all of this should be cleaned up to be directed at players by someone better with words than I am. But those were the guidelines I ran by to Not Be A Jerk.