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Lets fix pathology
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(03-09-2016, 06:23 AM)Marquesas Wrote: There's a million things here I should be responding to but I don't have time for all of them yet. So please don't be offended if I'm responding to snippets of things I saw in a quick look-through.

- Fair point about the modules. They will no longer be removable.
- The starting pathogen samples have a very, VERY good reason to be limited to T3.
- The dropping of reagents does work, and does give different messages for each of the same message symptom if you are using the right reagent. Honestly, since there are so many ways to correlate stuff, I don't think examination should be a free pass.
- Locking these together: You are not supposed to be 'pretty satisfied all the time'. We're talking about stealthy shit that can singlehandedly take out the entire station while you sit in your chair sipping martinis. I'm not about to go and make it more comfortable to make. What do you want me to do, introduce a time-locked research system that automatically provides you with airborne GBS after 30 minutes? Because we all know how that turned out.
- PE formula: Not *quite* sure at the moment, however, I do know that the system has at least PE chance to be right. So effectively, it is a wise choice to agree when PE is above 50%.

Honestly, reading back what I had to reply to basically says you don't want to exert any effort here. That's not good.

No, that's completely fine and I won't be offended as you did seemingly miss the more important points. 

- The module change is good, no-one will be forced to venture out into deep space for cures anymore. Can we have the vaccine and improved cure making module as baseline as well?  I think the irridiation one is too strong to be baseline.
- Yes, I never claimed that starting samples should be anything more then T3, they indeed have a good reason for to be limited to that. You don't want to have GBS, Dragon fever or teleportitis running rampart across the station five minutes in.
- I'm fairly certain that dropping of reagents does not work, I mean I am literally looking at the gooncode to see the current reagent and what the result it gives, the it simply gives me the "You can observe the following in the dish:" and then its blank, even according to the code, I am using the right reagent. I'm willing to take a beating if I am wrong and it really does work.
- No, pathology doesn't need to become old pathology, old robotics or new genetics research. The current way you do pathology research is fine except for the fact that there is a chance that you don't have all of the required tier 1 symptoms. Why does pathology have a chance to be punished heavily and be forced to go to space to buy more samples? I mean heck, those samples are 700 a piece. Medical doctor can afford six of them by 45 minutes if the HoP hasn't stolen all of the money.  I'm 100 % fine with sitting for 45 minutes tied to the computer, if I have everything I need to actually reach the highest tier of symptoms. I don't see a reason to make pathology something like artifact lab, where you pray to gods of RNG that you'll have every symptom. Let's not forget that pathology spawns you only certain amount of rare and very rare symptoms, worst case scenario is that as traitor, your only "very rare" is a helpful symptom.
- I'm quite careless for the PE analyzer, it's not helpful enough for me to use it but if someone else gains from it, so be it.


We know that the coders are busy and that pathology is not quite "polished" yet, but it would honestly be tons better with more helpful symptoms and with more stunning/annoying symptoms then those that outright fuck you over. I think pathology can be compared currently to genetics, before it received that huge increase of new genetic powers.

EDIT: Heck, can't we just start off pathology with just ONE vial which has all of the tier 1's in it? You would literally then have to work your way from the ground up, but would not have to rely on RNG at all. Also I'm available on IRC most of the time, if you wish to discuss this there. I'm a big fan of pathology and I just wish it would be more fair towards the player.
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Messages In This Thread
Lets fix pathology - by Azungar - 03-04-2016, 11:44 AM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by medsal15 - 03-04-2016, 12:08 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Azungar - 03-04-2016, 12:12 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Gannets - 03-04-2016, 12:25 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Azungar - 03-04-2016, 01:06 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by robertGN - 03-04-2016, 12:29 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Vitatroll - 03-04-2016, 01:52 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Mageziya - 03-04-2016, 06:15 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Frank_Stein - 03-04-2016, 07:15 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Erev - 03-04-2016, 07:43 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Azungar - 03-05-2016, 12:51 AM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Marquesas - 03-09-2016, 06:23 AM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Azungar - 03-09-2016, 07:09 AM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Marquesas - 03-09-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Azungar - 03-10-2016, 07:52 AM
RE: Lets fix pathology - by Marquesas - 03-10-2016, 08:46 AM

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