Goonhub
12-28-2015, 06:55 PM
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6217
For reference.
This appeal process bothered me here because...
A. While the player had that huge "Free Beatbeat" campaign waged... in 2012 the administration gave even sploded bans an allowance to return. Hell even Kingston and Lorde Doom were allowed to come back, albeit under different names.
B. The evidence presented that he was lying was a half literate person claiming to be in on the shenanigans of a well known griefer. If every person who was a newer player trying to connect themselves somehow to an older player was to be believed, half the people would be banned. I grant that it could be true, however that evidence is not conclusive, and the appealer doesn't deny that they have done shitty things and even listed those he DID do shitty things with.
C. The term tranny. I know some consider offensive. Just like some consider the term "retarded" offensive. As someone whose last two relationships were with transexual people (I am not kidding, the circles I run in tend to have quite a few) and numerous friends... it's often a term of endearment or a catchall for when you don't know if a person is a transsexual, a transvestite, or a drag queen. While it skirts the line it's on the wrong side of being a bit too "PCPrincipal"
Over and over I keep seeing "we can reban them if they fuck up" but a few people dogpiled on this dudes reasonable appeal, picked it apart and made accusations based on bare pretenses.
To be clear I didn't like Kingston and his lackies. I did a lil dance when I learned he'd been sploded. But I can also be a shithead from time to time.
Even now I can be, but ultimately I think anyone can find their groove. This guy was given a reban he shouldn't have been given if everyone was pardoned in 2012, and then the complaints above outline my problem with his appeal.
This may get me in trouble. This maybe called stupid. But I think this thread had too much of a mob mentality feel to it.
For reference.
This appeal process bothered me here because...
A. While the player had that huge "Free Beatbeat" campaign waged... in 2012 the administration gave even sploded bans an allowance to return. Hell even Kingston and Lorde Doom were allowed to come back, albeit under different names.
B. The evidence presented that he was lying was a half literate person claiming to be in on the shenanigans of a well known griefer. If every person who was a newer player trying to connect themselves somehow to an older player was to be believed, half the people would be banned. I grant that it could be true, however that evidence is not conclusive, and the appealer doesn't deny that they have done shitty things and even listed those he DID do shitty things with.
C. The term tranny. I know some consider offensive. Just like some consider the term "retarded" offensive. As someone whose last two relationships were with transexual people (I am not kidding, the circles I run in tend to have quite a few) and numerous friends... it's often a term of endearment or a catchall for when you don't know if a person is a transsexual, a transvestite, or a drag queen. While it skirts the line it's on the wrong side of being a bit too "PCPrincipal"
Over and over I keep seeing "we can reban them if they fuck up" but a few people dogpiled on this dudes reasonable appeal, picked it apart and made accusations based on bare pretenses.
To be clear I didn't like Kingston and his lackies. I did a lil dance when I learned he'd been sploded. But I can also be a shithead from time to time.
Even now I can be, but ultimately I think anyone can find their groove. This guy was given a reban he shouldn't have been given if everyone was pardoned in 2012, and then the complaints above outline my problem with his appeal.
This may get me in trouble. This maybe called stupid. But I think this thread had too much of a mob mentality feel to it.